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Not to defend China on human rights here, but to those accusing China of hypocrisy: China does this to point out the hypocrisy of the US - who is too happy to

Not to defend China on human rights here, but to those accusing China of hypocrisy: China does this to point out the hypocrisy of the US - who is too happy to accuse others of human rights abuses while running turning a blind eye to its own problems (for some modern examples, see the latest NDAA or the patriot act). The economist actually had blog about this just recently: http://www.economist.com/blogs/analects/2012/05/americas-example http://www.economist.com/blogs/analects/2012/05/americas-exa... I don't think anyone in Chinese government expects the world to take them seriously on human rights. They're just trying to deflect criticism.

rflrob 14y ago
>Not to defend China on human rights here, but to those accusing China of hypocrisy: China does this to point out the hypocrisy of the US - who is too happy to accuse others of human rights abuses while running turning a blind eye to its own problems. There are, I think, relatively few people who would claim the US has a perfect record on human rights, but I don't think it's fair to say that we turn a blind eye to them. These things do get debated, even if we ultimately decide to go with the less liberal option. Saying that we ought to get our house completely in order before pointing out human rights violation in other countries is wronger than wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wronger_than_wrong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wronger_than_wrong
AJ007 14y ago
Hypocrisy is an outcome of propaganda. Western views on morality demand justification for actions which others would be punished severely for. Yet, behind history, the "good guys" are just as ruthless and brutal as the "bad guys."
guscost 14y ago
I've heard the meme, but it surely doesn't justify any more of this crap...
- amurmann 14y ago
  Can you explain why you think this is crap? Don't you think it's important that attnion is brought to every human rights violation everywhere?
- gcb 14y ago
  I hope you say crap meaning human rights violations justified because the other does too. If you mean crap as in pointing out the inconvenient truth to invite dialog, then all i have to say is fuck yeah America!
mebassett 14y ago
actually, as a patriotic american who cares about human rights - I appreciate such reports. For anyone else who feels the same, here's a perhaps more reliable, effective source: http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/countries/americas/usa http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/countries/americas/usa

rflrob 14y ago

>Not to defend China on human rights here, but to those accusing China of hypocrisy: China does this to point out the hypocrisy of the US - who is too happy to accuse others of human rights abuses while running turning a blind eye to its own problems. There are, I think, relatively few people who would claim the US has a perfect record on human rights, but I don't think it's fair to say that we turn a blind eye to them. These things do get debated, even if we ultimately decide to go with the less liberal option. Saying that we ought to get our house completely in order before pointing out human rights violation in other countries is wronger than wrong: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wronger_than_wrong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wronger_than_wrong

AJ007 14y ago

Hypocrisy is an outcome of propaganda. Western views on morality demand justification for actions which others would be punished severely for. Yet, behind history, the "good guys" are just as ruthless and brutal as the "bad guys."

guscost 14y ago

I've heard the meme, but it surely doesn't justify any more of this crap...

amurmann 14y ago
Can you explain why you think this is crap? Don't you think it's important that attnion is brought to every human rights violation everywhere?
gcb 14y ago
I hope you say crap meaning human rights violations justified because the other does too. If you mean crap as in pointing out the inconvenient truth to invite dialog, then all i have to say is fuck yeah America!

mebassett 14y ago

actually, as a patriotic american who cares about human rights - I appreciate such reports. For anyone else who feels the same, here's a perhaps more reliable, effective source: http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/countries/americas/usa http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/countries/americas/usa