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> To simply throw out George as the be-all and end-all of a $245B company... frankly absurd. I didn't do that, and I don't appreciate this misreading of my pos

> To simply throw out George as the be-all and end-all of a $245B company... frankly absurd. I didn't do that, and I don't appreciate this misreading of my post. Please don't drag me into whatever drama is/was going on between you two. The only point I was making was that George's experience with AMD products reflected poorly on AMD software engineering circa 2023. Whether George is ultimately successful in convincing AMD to publicly release what he needs is beside the point. Whether he is ultimately successful convincing their GPUs to perform his expectations is beside the point.

latchkey 2y ago
> The only point I was making was that George's experience with AMD products reflected poorly on AMD software engineering circa 2023. Except that isn't the point you said... "there's no hope of them becoming serious contenders in AI without some major changes in AMD's priorities" My point in showing you (not dragging you into) the drama, is to tell you that George is not a credible witness for your beliefs.
- simondotau 2y ago
  Clearly you've experienced some kind of personality clash and/or a battle of egos. I can't fault you for holding a low opinion of him as a result, but I'm unimpressed with personal beefs being used as evidence to impeach credibility. My point is as I wrote in both posts. George was able to demonstrate evidence of poor engineering which "reflected poorly on AMD". From this I could form my own conclusion that AMD aren't in an engineering position to become "serious contenders in AI". The poor software engineering evident on consumer cards is an indictment of AMD engineers, and the theoretical possibility for their enterprise products to have well engineered firmware wouldn't alleviate this indictment. If anything it makes AMD look insidious or incompetent.
  - latchkey 2y ago
    I really don't give AF about George.

latchkey 2y ago

> The only point I was making was that George's experience with AMD products reflected poorly on AMD software engineering circa 2023. Except that isn't the point you said... "there's no hope of them becoming serious contenders in AI without some major changes in AMD's priorities" My point in showing you (not dragging you into) the drama, is to tell you that George is not a credible witness for your beliefs.

simondotau 2y ago
Clearly you've experienced some kind of personality clash and/or a battle of egos. I can't fault you for holding a low opinion of him as a result, but I'm unimpressed with personal beefs being used as evidence to impeach credibility. My point is as I wrote in both posts. George was able to demonstrate evidence of poor engineering which "reflected poorly on AMD". From this I could form my own conclusion that AMD aren't in an engineering position to become "serious contenders in AI". The poor software engineering evident on consumer cards is an indictment of AMD engineers, and the theoretical possibility for their enterprise products to have well engineered firmware wouldn't alleviate this indictment. If anything it makes AMD look insidious or incompetent.
- latchkey 2y ago
  I really don't give AF about George.