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Yes, Europe desperately needs crappy megascale entrenched solutions which replaced whole vibrant "fragmented" ecosystems with grey facextok goo! /s Europe does

by rini17 2y ago

Yes, Europe desperately needs crappy megascale entrenched solutions which replaced whole vibrant "fragmented" ecosystems with grey facextok goo! /s Europe does have its problems but not exactly this.

yreg 2y ago
> grey facextok goo Your comment is a bit obfuscated, are you saying we, Europeans don't need Facebook, TikTok, etc.? But those platforms are super popular here anyway.
- rini17 2y ago
  Of course they don't need. In 2000s there were popular local social networks that were much better moderated and lost not because of quality, but because of unavailable investment (disk space to store users' photos and videos was expensive then) and lack of any moral restraints of US-based and China-based megacorps. So now we have this toxic crap and have to pretend content moderation is some intractable problem.
  - yreg 2y ago
    Sounds a bit like you are saying that it would be perhaps better to have European-made social networks instead of leaving up the entire market for foreign companies.
  - floam 2y ago
    You guys did not create the conditions for something better to do better.
okasaki 2y ago
What ecosystem? Europe is completely colonized by Microsoft, Oracle, Google and Apple and others.
TheCapeGreek 2y ago
The megascale entrenchment is needing a specialist consultant to navigate tax and compliance laws just for your company to exist, let alone operate, and especially operate in multiple EU jurisdictions. EU OSS VAT is a great example of a program that simplifies these sorts of operations. eu/acc is clearly asking for more like that.
- rini17 2y ago
  You conveniently missed the fact they got entrenched before interfacing with any EU jurisdiction. Can't get any simpler than that. And what's up with the loaded statement about "tax and compliance laws just for your company to exist"...that's not true, any attempts to censor internet in EU are marginal so they could exist fine without that. But now that they want to extract profit of EU users and businesses, they have to navigate like everyone else.

by rini17 2y ago

Yes, Europe desperately needs crappy megascale entrenched solutions which replaced whole vibrant "fragmented" ecosystems with grey facextok goo! /s Europe does have its problems but not exactly this.

yreg 2y ago

> grey facextok goo Your comment is a bit obfuscated, are you saying we, Europeans don't need Facebook, TikTok, etc.? But those platforms are super popular here anyway.

rini17 2y ago
Of course they don't need. In 2000s there were popular local social networks that were much better moderated and lost not because of quality, but because of unavailable investment (disk space to store users' photos and videos was expensive then) and lack of any moral restraints of US-based and China-based megacorps. So now we have this toxic crap and have to pretend content moderation is some intractable problem.
- yreg 2y ago
  Sounds a bit like you are saying that it would be perhaps better to have European-made social networks instead of leaving up the entire market for foreign companies.
- floam 2y ago
  You guys did not create the conditions for something better to do better.

okasaki 2y ago

What ecosystem? Europe is completely colonized by Microsoft, Oracle, Google and Apple and others.

TheCapeGreek 2y ago

The megascale entrenchment is needing a specialist consultant to navigate tax and compliance laws just for your company to exist, let alone operate, and especially operate in multiple EU jurisdictions. EU OSS VAT is a great example of a program that simplifies these sorts of operations. eu/acc is clearly asking for more like that.

rini17 2y ago
You conveniently missed the fact they got entrenched before interfacing with any EU jurisdiction. Can't get any simpler than that. And what's up with the loaded statement about "tax and compliance laws just for your company to exist"...that's not true, any attempts to censor internet in EU are marginal so they could exist fine without that. But now that they want to extract profit of EU users and businesses, they have to navigate like everyone else.