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> shitty clip art AI art is better than most humans, including most artists. You can take the outputs and immediately turn them into animation. Suddenly I, as

> shitty clip art AI art is better than most humans, including most artists. You can take the outputs and immediately turn them into animation. Suddenly I, as a single individual, can easily make film content without figuring out set and lighting logistics or roping in dozens of people. This stuff is magic.

ghaff 3y ago
I was somewhat with you through the first sentence then it got a bit breathless. As someone with some graphic design experience but who isn’t very good and can’t really draw, I used Photoshop and it’s genAI capability recently to put together a book cover for an ebook. Would it win any awards? I’m pretty sure not but it’s more than adequate for its purpose and is almost certainly better than anything I could have come up with even if I used some CC artwork. ADDED: I also had something of a vision for what I was looking for and (I think) enough of an eye to fiddle with things and get to the point where I went "This isn't half bad."
- echelon 3y ago
  Exactly! Editing and controllability are getting better almost every week.
YurgenJurgensen 3y ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again: The fact that you didn't think to include an example is telling. If you think AI 'art' is good, show me, and tell me why you think it's good.
- zo1 3y ago
  Not OP. Conflating "art" (the "snobbish" definition if you will) with realistic depictions of imagined worlds, stories and settings is not helpful here. There are so many talented, imaginative people out there that have previously had Zero ability to manifest their thoughts into a visual form. AI has enabled that on so many levels and we should be grateful for it.
  - YurgenJurgensen 3y ago
    Then why not show me? Why is getting AI 'art' advocates to actually post something they think is good and explain why so hard? Where are these talented imaginative people and what are they doing?
    - CaptainFever 3y ago
      Air Head by shy kids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4wJ4WeJrz4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4wJ4WeJrz4 You also don't see the everyday people using it to generate pictures about their own experiences and lives, using it to populate their DnD worlds, their personal unpublishable fanfics, etc.
      - YurgenJurgensen 3y ago
        ...and explain why you think it's good. This part is important since I'm still yet to see evidence that the AI artist is capable of thinking more deeply than "(full_body:1.2) , best quality, (8k, RAW photo, best quality, masterpiece:1.2) , (realistic, photo-realistic:1.4) , ultra-detailed, (Kpop idol) , perfect detail, looking at the viewer, makeup, pretty South Korean lady wearing a bathing suit, wet skin, light reflections, angelic cute face, half body shot, short brownish black hair".
        thaumasiotes 3y ago
        You've gotten me confused about what you're going for. I figure the goal is "this is what this would look like, if there were a person with a balloon for a head and we captured him with a video camera". The linked video isn't there yet, but it seems obvious what would or wouldn't make it good, and the list of traits you describe is really all I want in an image generator. I don't care what the girl is thinking about; that doesn't show up in the image anyway. I do want to be able to say "no, make the hair shorter", or "turn her to face more toward the left of the frame" or "have her pointing at the door in the background". If that command takes the form of a comma-delimited list of traits, so what?
      - 3y ago

ghaff 3y ago

I was somewhat with you through the first sentence then it got a bit breathless. As someone with some graphic design experience but who isn’t very good and can’t really draw, I used Photoshop and it’s genAI capability recently to put together a book cover for an ebook. Would it win any awards? I’m pretty sure not but it’s more than adequate for its purpose and is almost certainly better than anything I could have come up with even if I used some CC artwork. ADDED: I also had something of a vision for what I was looking for and (I think) enough of an eye to fiddle with things and get to the point where I went "This isn't half bad."

echelon 3y ago
Exactly! Editing and controllability are getting better almost every week.

YurgenJurgensen 3y ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again: The fact that you didn't think to include an example is telling. If you think AI 'art' is good, show me, and tell me why you think it's good.

zo1 3y ago
Not OP. Conflating "art" (the "snobbish" definition if you will) with realistic depictions of imagined worlds, stories and settings is not helpful here. There are so many talented, imaginative people out there that have previously had Zero ability to manifest their thoughts into a visual form. AI has enabled that on so many levels and we should be grateful for it.
- YurgenJurgensen 3y ago
  Then why not show me? Why is getting AI 'art' advocates to actually post something they think is good and explain why so hard? Where are these talented imaginative people and what are they doing?
  - CaptainFever 3y ago
    Air Head by shy kids https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4wJ4WeJrz4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4wJ4WeJrz4 You also don't see the everyday people using it to generate pictures about their own experiences and lives, using it to populate their DnD worlds, their personal unpublishable fanfics, etc.
    - YurgenJurgensen 3y ago
      ...and explain why you think it's good. This part is important since I'm still yet to see evidence that the AI artist is capable of thinking more deeply than "(full_body:1.2) , best quality, (8k, RAW photo, best quality, masterpiece:1.2) , (realistic, photo-realistic:1.4) , ultra-detailed, (Kpop idol) , perfect detail, looking at the viewer, makeup, pretty South Korean lady wearing a bathing suit, wet skin, light reflections, angelic cute face, half body shot, short brownish black hair".
      - thaumasiotes 3y ago
        You've gotten me confused about what you're going for. I figure the goal is "this is what this would look like, if there were a person with a balloon for a head and we captured him with a video camera". The linked video isn't there yet, but it seems obvious what would or wouldn't make it good, and the list of traits you describe is really all I want in an image generator. I don't care what the girl is thinking about; that doesn't show up in the image anyway. I do want to be able to say "no, make the hair shorter", or "turn her to face more toward the left of the frame" or "have her pointing at the door in the background". If that command takes the form of a comma-delimited list of traits, so what?
    - 3y ago