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the American models are similarly censored for specific topics...
by ekianjo 2y ago
the American models are similarly censored for specific topics...
- option 2y agoI’ll take American values over CCP any day
- ekianjo 2y agoWell it's good to have a choice and to compare answers on a broad range of topics and see which one is the most reliable, for what kind of questions, so that you know what you are working with in the end.
- falcor84 2y agoOh? Interesting. Which historical events are they unwilling to discuss?
- ekianjo 2y agoI did not mention historical events in my comment. And in any case, whatever model you train is going to have the biases of the training datasets, and if you make heavy use of Wikipedia you will have the footprint of Wikipedia in your output, for good or bad.
- InTheArena 2y ago"Similarly censored for similar topics" implies heavily that hypothetical events such as Tiananmen Square would be similarly surprised by English large language models.
- ekianjo 2y agoThe actual comment said "similarly censored for specific topics..."
- rgoulter 2y agoe.g. Google's Gemini's output had some rather embarrassing biases in its outputs; to the point where asking it to "draw a 1943 German soldier" resulted in images of women and black soldiers. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/technology/google-gemini-german-uniforms.html https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/technology/google-gemini-... I wouldn't put that on the same level as "refusing to talk about massacre of civilians"; but I wouldn't put it to the level of "free and unbiased" either.
- jug 2y agoThe irony is that this was probably straight in a system prompt to provide diversity in order to AVOID biases in the training data.
- tim333 2y agoI'm not sure it's avoiding biases so much as trying to have the currently favoured bias. Obviously it got it a bit wrong with the nazi thing. It's tricky for humans too to know what you are supposed to say some times.
- oceanplexian 2y agoI just asked GPT-4 if the government lied when they claimed face masks didn’t prevent COVID-19 early in the pandemic. It evaded the question, and said that masks weren’t recommended because there were shortages. But that wasn’t the question. The question was if the government was lying to the public. I’m going to guess a Chinese model would have a different response, and GPT-4 has been “aligned” to lie about uncomfortable facts.
- dartos 2y agoTbf there is a lot more conflicting information on the internet (thus GPT’s training data) about COVID mask restrictions than Tiananmen Square.
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- antifa 2y agoAlso probably one of the most boring lies to expose the US government over.
- otterley 2y agoWhy would you ask an LLM whether a government was lying? It’s a language model, not an investigative body with subpoena power charged with determining whether someone made an intentionally false representation.
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- adhamsalama 2y agoAsking ChatGPT if Israelis deserve freedom was answered with something like "Yes, they deserve freedom like everyone else". Asking if Palestinians deserve freedom was answered with something like " It's a complex and sensitive topic". https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/181gi73/chatgpt_on_palestine_and_israel_what_do_you_make/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Palestine/comments/181gi73/chatgpt_... I tested it again just now, same result.
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