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Try asking their "chat" variants about topics sensetive to CCP, like what has happened on Tiananmen square. Same for Baichan models. What other values and bias
by option 2y ago
Try asking their "chat" variants about topics sensetive to CCP, like what has happened on Tiananmen square. Same for Baichan models.
What other values and biases have been RLHFed there and for what purpose?
- HKH2 2y agoOf course, otherwise it wouldn't be allowed in China. Where can I find LLMs that are uncensored and accessible (without logging in)?
- fzzzy 2y agomixtral, miqu q5, llama 3 (still seem to be bugs running llama 3 locally as gguf, unclear if this is resolved yet)
- happypumpkin 2y agoUSER: What happened at Tienanmen square? yi-34b-chat: Tiananmen Square is a large public square in the heart of Beijing, China. It is named after the Tiananmen (literally "Gate of Heavenly Peace"), which is the gate located to the north of the square and was the main entrance to the Imperial City during the Ming and Qing dynasties. The square is famously known for two significant events in Chinese history: The May Fourth Movement (1919): This was a student-led movement that began on May 4, 1919, in response to the Chinese government's handling of the Treaty of Versailles, which granted German concessions in Shandong to Japan rather than returning them to China. The movement sparked a wave of anti-imperialist sentiment and calls for cultural and political reform, and it is considered a key event leading to the birth of Chinese nationalism and the development of the Chinese Communist Party. The Tiananmen Square Massacre (1989): This is the event for which Tiananmen Square is most internationally renowned. In the spring of 1989, there were student-led demonstrations in Beijing and other cities across China, calling for political reform and an end to corruption. The protests were initially peaceful, but on June 3 and 4, the Chinese government responded with a military crackdown, opening fire on the protesters and bystanders, killing and injuring thousands. The exact death toll is unknown, but it is estimated to be in the hundreds or even thousands. The Tiananmen Square Massacre is a significant event in modern Chinese history and has had a profound impact on the country's politics and society. It remains a sensitive topic in China, with government censorship and restrictions on discussing the event.
- hackerlight 2y agoIf you ask DeepSeek chat, your question literally disappears from the UI a second after you hit the return key.
- polygamous_bat 2y agoThis is an interesting question. Is there a “controversy-benchmark” perhaps, to measure this?
- pennomi 2y agoIn that same light, what about over-alignment benchmarks? Things like LLMs refusing to tell you how to destroy all children of a Unity GameObject.
- ekianjo 2y agothe American models are similarly censored for specific topics...
- option 2y agoI’ll take American values over CCP any day
- ekianjo 2y agoWell it's good to have a choice and to compare answers on a broad range of topics and see which one is the most reliable, for what kind of questions, so that you know what you are working with in the end.
- falcor84 2y agoOh? Interesting. Which historical events are they unwilling to discuss?
- ekianjo 2y agoI did not mention historical events in my comment. And in any case, whatever model you train is going to have the biases of the training datasets, and if you make heavy use of Wikipedia you will have the footprint of Wikipedia in your output, for good or bad.
- InTheArena 2y ago"Similarly censored for similar topics" implies heavily that hypothetical events such as Tiananmen Square would be similarly surprised by English large language models.
- ekianjo 2y agoThe actual comment said "similarly censored for specific topics..."
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