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It is not about the backs of cabinets. It is about telling your customers how big of a deal the backs of cabinets really are.

by matusp 2y ago

nebula8804 2y ago
The back of Apple cabinets are are actually pretty good even in the Tim Cook era. [1]: https://www.cultofmac.com/320883/why-samsungs-design-sucks-in-a-single-image/ https://www.cultofmac.com/320883/why-samsungs-design-sucks-i... [2]: https://ioshacker.com/iphone/image-compares-ugly-samsung-beautiful-iphone-x-internals https://ioshacker.com/iphone/image-compares-ugly-samsung-bea...
- thfuran 2y ago
  I don't understand why someone would even want the ports to all be on the center line.
  - golergka 2y ago
    It's aesthetically pleasing.
    - vundercind 2y ago
      Helps you find ports by feel, too.
- makeitdouble 2y ago
  On the first, having the off-center hole helped with thicker plugs. The iPhone had less of these issues as cables were thinner (and more expensive) in general, while micro USB had a flurry of cheap cables in the while that could be much thicker. Apple never really cared for ports practicality, we've had the same discussion with the finewoven cases that wouldn't allow for regular thickness usb-c cables. Other makers made more of an effort on that front. The second would be a better point if iPhone's repairability was on par with Samsung's. Granted Samsung also became worse with time, but it was in no small part because of what the market leader could get away with. That said, I think your general point stabds: Apple cares about the back of the drawer. But not in the way I personally wish they cared.
  - nebula8804 2y ago
    There is no excuse for the top of the phone having things like misaligned microphone holes with the sim card tray etc. That is shown in the first link but only if you scroll down to the second photo.
- moffkalast 2y ago
  Tbh from a repair perspective I think I'd prefer Samsung's design where it's obvious what each component is and exposed solder joints that might let you desolder something if needed, compared to Apple's nicer looking bunch of black boxes where you're lucky if there's a label on something to tell you what it hell it even is. Also TIL Iphones have two separate batteries? Quite unusual.
  - sgerenser 2y ago
    That was the iPhone X from 6 or so years ago. I don’t think newer iPhones have 2 separate batteries.
- deleted 2y ago
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- bee_rider 2y ago
  The first is not really the back of the cabinet, it is more like the design on the front. The second… more like the back of the cabinet maybe. Although the better style there might also be somewhat functional; the internals are clearly quite different, one could imagine that the nice packaging in the Apple case might be a result of only wanting people to use approved parts.
  - nebula8804 2y ago
    >The first is not really the back of the cabinet, it is more like the design on the front. The metaphor seemed to have gone over your head. >The second… more like the back of the cabinet maybe. Although the better style there might also be somewhat functional; the internals are clearly quite different, one could imagine that the nice packaging in the Apple case might be a result of only wanting people to use approved parts. This philosophy applies to their entire product line and has essentially been the case since Jobs came back. Hell looking at the first 1984 Mac this philosophy was there.

It is not about the backs of cabinets. It is about telling your customers how big of a deal the backs of cabinets really are.

by matusp 2y ago

It is not about the backs of cabinets. It is about telling your customers how big of a deal the backs of cabinets really are.

nebula8804 2y ago

The back of Apple cabinets are are actually pretty good even in the Tim Cook era. [1]: https://www.cultofmac.com/320883/why-samsungs-design-sucks-in-a-single-image/ https://www.cultofmac.com/320883/why-samsungs-design-sucks-i... [2]: https://ioshacker.com/iphone/image-compares-ugly-samsung-beautiful-iphone-x-internals https://ioshacker.com/iphone/image-compares-ugly-samsung-bea...

thfuran 2y ago
I don't understand why someone would even want the ports to all be on the center line.
- golergka 2y ago
  It's aesthetically pleasing.
  - vundercind 2y ago
    Helps you find ports by feel, too.
makeitdouble 2y ago
On the first, having the off-center hole helped with thicker plugs. The iPhone had less of these issues as cables were thinner (and more expensive) in general, while micro USB had a flurry of cheap cables in the while that could be much thicker. Apple never really cared for ports practicality, we've had the same discussion with the finewoven cases that wouldn't allow for regular thickness usb-c cables. Other makers made more of an effort on that front. The second would be a better point if iPhone's repairability was on par with Samsung's. Granted Samsung also became worse with time, but it was in no small part because of what the market leader could get away with. That said, I think your general point stabds: Apple cares about the back of the drawer. But not in the way I personally wish they cared.
- nebula8804 2y ago
  There is no excuse for the top of the phone having things like misaligned microphone holes with the sim card tray etc. That is shown in the first link but only if you scroll down to the second photo.
moffkalast 2y ago
Tbh from a repair perspective I think I'd prefer Samsung's design where it's obvious what each component is and exposed solder joints that might let you desolder something if needed, compared to Apple's nicer looking bunch of black boxes where you're lucky if there's a label on something to tell you what it hell it even is. Also TIL Iphones have two separate batteries? Quite unusual.
- sgerenser 2y ago
  That was the iPhone X from 6 or so years ago. I don’t think newer iPhones have 2 separate batteries.
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bee_rider 2y ago
The first is not really the back of the cabinet, it is more like the design on the front. The second… more like the back of the cabinet maybe. Although the better style there might also be somewhat functional; the internals are clearly quite different, one could imagine that the nice packaging in the Apple case might be a result of only wanting people to use approved parts.
- nebula8804 2y ago
  >The first is not really the back of the cabinet, it is more like the design on the front. The metaphor seemed to have gone over your head. >The second… more like the back of the cabinet maybe. Although the better style there might also be somewhat functional; the internals are clearly quite different, one could imagine that the nice packaging in the Apple case might be a result of only wanting people to use approved parts. This philosophy applies to their entire product line and has essentially been the case since Jobs came back. Hell looking at the first 1984 Mac this philosophy was there.