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No source talks about PCB or other drugs in this case. Psychiatrist in this case testified "'100% certain' cannabis-induced psychosis". And psychoactive effe

No source talks about PCB or other drugs in this case. Psychiatrist in this case testified "'100% certain' cannabis-induced psychosis". And psychoactive effects of canabbis are well documented in other cases.

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LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago
What does 100% certain even mean, if it's unclear with what else that cannabis may have been laced/contaminated(has subject been in quarantine under exactly controlled conditions, and consumed drugs measured with gas chromatography?), and/or which other drugs may have been consumed(but not disclosed)? Or maybe had some sports induced brain lesion, but don't remember anymore? I don't give a shit about statements like these. They are no better than a bunch of screaming monkeys throwing sticks up in the sky during a thunderstorm. Ouk! Ouk! Ouk! > And psychoactive effects of canabbis are well documented in other cases So what? The same goes for alcohol, some foods, countless prescription medications, even social circumstances, maybe even the phases of the moon. Ouk! Ouk! Ouk!
- Tom3849 2y ago
  Police found killer just after stabbing, so I assume they could do complete bloodwork including gas chromatography. Here you got some study: https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2215-0366(19)30048-3/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2215-0366(19)30048-3/full... > Daily cannabis use was associated with increased odds of psychotic disorder compared with never users (adjusted odds ratio [OR] 3·2, 95% CI 2·2–4·1), increasing to nearly five-times increased odds for daily use of high-potency types of cannabis (4·8, 2·5–6·3).
  - LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago
    I'm still unconvinced. Because which 'cannabis' are we talking about here? Some organically grown sweet stuff, or sprayed with isecti-, fungi-, herbicides which usually contain organophosphates, which are neurotoxic, thus ARE a constituent of bug spray. Not to mention all the other shit it can be laced with to make it more heavy, tacky, and glittery. Does the blood work even account for those ? Even gas chromatography is not star-trekky tricorder-like. Even if it could be, would it be used under budgetary constraints? edit: Meanwhile I've read that whole f-ing thing, and it is like I imagined. A prime sample of the so called replication crisis. The only useful information is: Meta-analysis shows a dose–response association with the highest odds of psychotic disorder in those with the heaviest cannabis use. Oh really? Who would have thought? Furthermore they DIDN'T test the samples provided by the 1130 participants, because that would only show a single point in time, instead relying on even less samples from the participating regions, fabricating statistics. And only testing for Delta9-THC. Come back when you have something more solid. KTHXBAAAIIIIIII....
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appplication 2y ago
I have witnessed first hand cannabis induced psychosis. It isn’t common (and was thankfully temporary) but it is certainly very real, and a major risk for those affected by it.
- LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago
  There is a difference between psychosis and violent berserker, could maybe induced by extreme paranoia, but still unlikely.

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LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago

What does 100% certain even mean, if it's unclear with what else that cannabis may have been laced/contaminated(has subject been in quarantine under exactly controlled conditions, and consumed drugs measured with gas chromatography?), and/or which other drugs may have been consumed(but not disclosed)? Or maybe had some sports induced brain lesion, but don't remember anymore? I don't give a shit about statements like these. They are no better than a bunch of screaming monkeys throwing sticks up in the sky during a thunderstorm. Ouk! Ouk! Ouk! > And psychoactive effects of canabbis are well documented in other cases So what? The same goes for alcohol, some foods, countless prescription medications, even social circumstances, maybe even the phases of the moon. Ouk! Ouk! Ouk!

Tom3849 2y ago
Police found killer just after stabbing, so I assume they could do complete bloodwork including gas chromatography. Here you got some study: https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2215-0366(19)30048-3/fulltext https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2215-0366(19)30048-3/full... > Daily cannabis use was associated with increased odds of psychotic disorder compared with never users (adjusted odds ratio [OR] 3·2, 95% CI 2·2–4·1), increasing to nearly five-times increased odds for daily use of high-potency types of cannabis (4·8, 2·5–6·3).
- LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago
  I'm still unconvinced. Because which 'cannabis' are we talking about here? Some organically grown sweet stuff, or sprayed with isecti-, fungi-, herbicides which usually contain organophosphates, which are neurotoxic, thus ARE a constituent of bug spray. Not to mention all the other shit it can be laced with to make it more heavy, tacky, and glittery. Does the blood work even account for those ? Even gas chromatography is not star-trekky tricorder-like. Even if it could be, would it be used under budgetary constraints? edit: Meanwhile I've read that whole f-ing thing, and it is like I imagined. A prime sample of the so called replication crisis. The only useful information is: Meta-analysis shows a dose–response association with the highest odds of psychotic disorder in those with the heaviest cannabis use. Oh really? Who would have thought? Furthermore they DIDN'T test the samples provided by the 1130 participants, because that would only show a single point in time, instead relying on even less samples from the participating regions, fabricating statistics. And only testing for Delta9-THC. Come back when you have something more solid. KTHXBAAAIIIIIII....
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appplication 2y ago

I have witnessed first hand cannabis induced psychosis. It isn’t common (and was thankfully temporary) but it is certainly very real, and a major risk for those affected by it.

LargoLasskhyfv 2y ago
There is a difference between psychosis and violent berserker, could maybe induced by extreme paranoia, but still unlikely.