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The level of severity being discussed here is non-verbal, screaming all the time, just in a state of abject terror. These people have _severe_ ASD.

faeriechangling 2y ago
No, the discussion here was about the 5 year olds diagnosed with autism in the study. The severity of their autism was then argued based on how few of children with autism diagnosed by age 5 were able to live independently - and I directly questioned the validity of these statistics by pointing out the ulterior motives people have for making such a declaration, and how this isn't actually based on subjective opinions and not empirical measurements. You respond to my criticism by proclaiming that we're talking about severely autistic children who are non-verbal and screaming all the time. The average age of diagnosis is between 4-5, around half of the current autistic population were diagnosed by 5, most autism diagnosis in the modern day is for "mild autism", even for early diagnosis. Don't forget that the ever loosening autism diagnostic criteria, half of those diagnosed today would have never been diagnosed in 2014, how mild the autism is of who we're talking about is milder than what most people are familiar with in their past experiences with autistic people.
ModernMech 2y ago
Do you have an example of an autistic person screaming in terror all the time? As in all the time I mean, not just the times you’ve seen them. I’ve never met someone who does that so I’m curious how it works. My friend growing up was nonverbal, we used to play legos together. He would scream when he was touched and forced to do things, but it wasn’t all the time. So I imagine someone like your describing would feel that sensory overload all the time. I’m wondering if it is ever alleviated through dark or silence, and if not that would be hard to live with. I guess in my experience autistic people don’t scream when they’re left alone, but my experience is very limited.

faeriechangling 2y ago

No, the discussion here was about the 5 year olds diagnosed with autism in the study. The severity of their autism was then argued based on how few of children with autism diagnosed by age 5 were able to live independently - and I directly questioned the validity of these statistics by pointing out the ulterior motives people have for making such a declaration, and how this isn't actually based on subjective opinions and not empirical measurements. You respond to my criticism by proclaiming that we're talking about severely autistic children who are non-verbal and screaming all the time. The average age of diagnosis is between 4-5, around half of the current autistic population were diagnosed by 5, most autism diagnosis in the modern day is for "mild autism", even for early diagnosis. Don't forget that the ever loosening autism diagnostic criteria, half of those diagnosed today would have never been diagnosed in 2014, how mild the autism is of who we're talking about is milder than what most people are familiar with in their past experiences with autistic people.

ModernMech 2y ago

Do you have an example of an autistic person screaming in terror all the time? As in all the time I mean, not just the times you’ve seen them. I’ve never met someone who does that so I’m curious how it works. My friend growing up was nonverbal, we used to play legos together. He would scream when he was touched and forced to do things, but it wasn’t all the time. So I imagine someone like your describing would feel that sensory overload all the time. I’m wondering if it is ever alleviated through dark or silence, and if not that would be hard to live with. I guess in my experience autistic people don’t scream when they’re left alone, but my experience is very limited.