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Jellyfin is great & amazing. Been using the Debian repo for a while now & overall just a huge upgrade to my life. Especially with (non-iphone) devices being abl

Jellyfin is great & amazing. Been using the Debian repo for a while now & overall just a huge upgrade to my life. Especially with (non-iphone) devices being able to control & cast. I still kind of want to burn it all down though. It's such a thick & heavy system. I just want a better world where there's media vaults exposed, that various clients can consume & push to devices. (I want the browser to be able to be both intermediary here and target ideally.) The huge monolith feels so cumbersome. So much is close but full of gnits. The browsing interface frequently makes it very difficult to get to the next episode; it wants to be smart & just doesn't always cut it & leaves no fall backs. The remote control interface desyncs. The remote control interface tries to adjust colors, I think, but sometimes creates a low contrast or zero contrast interface that's impossible to use. It's just so big. This fork of an old old huge Emby app... It feels like smaller pieces would work better. It's wild that DLNA for so close, but didn't really cut it; that it's small pieces loosely coupled haven't quite become good enough, somehow. I think a bunch of that is that the controllers on each device never connected, where-as Jellyfin is a centralized system that keeps track of what you're watching. Jellyfin is probably the most dualistic of softwares that I run. Most loved, most hated. Incredibly thick to try to wrangle; hope of evolvability is low; the monolith has landed and isn't likely to be heavily moving from here. Beware monoliths.

_fs 3y ago
I feel like the sole reason jellyfin exists is because some people don't want to fork over the cash for lifetime plex. Plex just works. Jellyfin is constantly in a state of failure or bad state.
- upon_drumhead 3y ago
  I ran plex for a long time and had a lifetime plex membership. They pushed their services so hard, but I let it pass until they stated emailing out to all my friends what I've been watching. They violated their promises. They stated that they didn't track or know what people watched. This is absolutely a lie. They have to track it to email it out to friends. I deleted my account, destroying my lifetime plex pass and moved to Jellyfin. Yes, it's not as polished, but it preserves my privacy and I don't get ads filled free crap tv shoved in my face all the time. Plus Jellyfin generally does just work. I don't miss Plex at all.
  - _fs 3y ago
    Both of your complaints come down to two settings options you failed to click. Settings that set your privacy are created when you set up the machine. If you don't set them at that point, they are in the settings any time... As for their content, again, just turn them off. I never added their content to my side bar, and they never showed up on their own?
    - upon_drumhead 3y ago
      I'm certain I would turn them off every time they popped back on, and the settings would reset occasionally. Regardless, the polish isn't enough to justify a company that has modified the deal (we don't track what you do). Once that first promise is broken, the trust is broken forever.
    - Caligatio 3y ago
      I've been using Plex since 2014 (i.e. before there was a need for privacy settings) and can personally attest to all of these sharing features being opt-out rather than opt-in. I was not pleased to see viewing history randomly showing up in my inbox (thankfully I don't have anything embarrassing) and then needing to search how to opt out of sharing and analytic stuff.
- pixxel 3y ago
  Don’t be so pompous. Many of us take privacy and opensource seriously.
- maxglute 3y ago
  I think the opposite, the developers see people willing to pay 100s for Plex lifetime and probably willing to pay 100s more when they have to jump ship as Plex layers shit ontop of just works, while not meaningfully making things work better. Jellyfin is definitely not there yet, but I'm open to moving away from Plex, after spending $$ on lifetime pass.

_fs 3y ago

I feel like the sole reason jellyfin exists is because some people don't want to fork over the cash for lifetime plex. Plex just works. Jellyfin is constantly in a state of failure or bad state.

upon_drumhead 3y ago
I ran plex for a long time and had a lifetime plex membership. They pushed their services so hard, but I let it pass until they stated emailing out to all my friends what I've been watching. They violated their promises. They stated that they didn't track or know what people watched. This is absolutely a lie. They have to track it to email it out to friends. I deleted my account, destroying my lifetime plex pass and moved to Jellyfin. Yes, it's not as polished, but it preserves my privacy and I don't get ads filled free crap tv shoved in my face all the time. Plus Jellyfin generally does just work. I don't miss Plex at all.
- _fs 3y ago
  Both of your complaints come down to two settings options you failed to click. Settings that set your privacy are created when you set up the machine. If you don't set them at that point, they are in the settings any time... As for their content, again, just turn them off. I never added their content to my side bar, and they never showed up on their own?
  - upon_drumhead 3y ago
    I'm certain I would turn them off every time they popped back on, and the settings would reset occasionally. Regardless, the polish isn't enough to justify a company that has modified the deal (we don't track what you do). Once that first promise is broken, the trust is broken forever.
  - Caligatio 3y ago
    I've been using Plex since 2014 (i.e. before there was a need for privacy settings) and can personally attest to all of these sharing features being opt-out rather than opt-in. I was not pleased to see viewing history randomly showing up in my inbox (thankfully I don't have anything embarrassing) and then needing to search how to opt out of sharing and analytic stuff.
pixxel 3y ago
Don’t be so pompous. Many of us take privacy and opensource seriously.
maxglute 3y ago
I think the opposite, the developers see people willing to pay 100s for Plex lifetime and probably willing to pay 100s more when they have to jump ship as Plex layers shit ontop of just works, while not meaningfully making things work better. Jellyfin is definitely not there yet, but I'm open to moving away from Plex, after spending $$ on lifetime pass.