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Failure to Safeguard Free Speech Is Always a Problem

9 points by wahnfrieden 2y ago

budududuroiu 2y ago
Im going to approach this from a totally different angle, maybe wrong. To me it seems like periods of intense geopolitical tensions seem to correlate with a suppression of civil liberties in the West (see: McCarthyism and the Red Scare). Now, with algorithmic ally driven feeds, a dying media apparatus clamouring to maintain relevance, it’s easier than ever for foreign state actors (and domestic ruling classes) to exploit genuine civil expression of dissatisfaction for division and a partisanship.
aebtebeten 2y ago
I'm going to approach this from a third entirely different angle, maybe wrong. My birth country has a 1A and a 2A (but no ERA); my adoptive country neither of those (but does guarantee equality*). By looking where my feet are you can tell which country I believe does a better job of providing liberty and justice for all. * RS 101 art. 8 As to division and partisanship, a joke: Our (former) far-right party leader went to some international convention, and at lunch Le Pen and Wilders beckoned him over and said "come have lunch with us!", but he just waggled his finger at them, pointed towards two shaggy-haired politicians at a nearby table in polarfleece and sensible shoes, and said "sorry, I'm a right wing nationalist, so I'm going to go over there and eat lunch with my colleagues: the socialist and the green from my country."
- smcin 2y ago
  > * RS 101 art. 8 RS 101 Federal Constitution of the Swiss Confederation (1999) Title 2 Fundamental rights, citizenship and social goals > Chapter 1 Fundamental rights > Art. 8 Equality https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1999/404/en https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1999/404/en [the current HTML version refuses to show, click on the 01.01.2024 version]
  - 082349872349872 2y ago
    Probably a small-audience exercise (for those familiar with all the parties during the 90s; at most a few million people), but as an example of successful sausage making and consensus politics, see the Preamble to the Constitution, and assign each sentence or phrase to the party which most likely convinced all the others it was reasonable to include.

9 points by wahnfrieden 2y ago

Im going to approach this from a totally different angle, maybe wrong. To me it seems like periods of intense geopolitical tensions seem to correlate with a suppression of civil liberties in the West (see: McCarthyism and the Red Scare). Now, with algorithmic ally driven feeds, a dying media apparatus clamouring to maintain relevance, it’s easier than ever for foreign state actors (and domestic ruling classes) to exploit genuine civil expression of dissatisfaction for division and a partisanship.

aebtebeten 2y ago

I'm going to approach this from a third entirely different angle, maybe wrong. My birth country has a 1A and a 2A (but no ERA); my adoptive country neither of those (but does guarantee equality*). By looking where my feet are you can tell which country I believe does a better job of providing liberty and justice for all. * RS 101 art. 8 As to division and partisanship, a joke: Our (former) far-right party leader went to some international convention, and at lunch Le Pen and Wilders beckoned him over and said "come have lunch with us!", but he just waggled his finger at them, pointed towards two shaggy-haired politicians at a nearby table in polarfleece and sensible shoes, and said "sorry, I'm a right wing nationalist, so I'm going to go over there and eat lunch with my colleagues: the socialist and the green from my country."

smcin 2y ago
> * RS 101 art. 8 RS 101 Federal Constitution of the Swiss Confederation (1999) Title 2 Fundamental rights, citizenship and social goals > Chapter 1 Fundamental rights > Art. 8 Equality https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1999/404/en https://www.fedlex.admin.ch/eli/cc/1999/404/en [the current HTML version refuses to show, click on the 01.01.2024 version]
- 082349872349872 2y ago
  Probably a small-audience exercise (for those familiar with all the parties during the 90s; at most a few million people), but as an example of successful sausage making and consensus politics, see the Preamble to the Constitution, and assign each sentence or phrase to the party which most likely convinced all the others it was reasonable to include.