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Re: ad-hominem: "someone who's probably just a dishonest emotional 'fast talker'" (false: I'm very honest, pretty chill, and speak at a pretty normal pace due
by dakom 2y ago
Re: ad-hominem:
"someone who's probably just a dishonest emotional 'fast talker'"
(false: I'm very honest, pretty chill, and speak at a pretty normal pace due to my Texan upbringing)
"bi-polar"
(false, never been diagnosed with that)
There's more of course.. but, do you really need me to list every instance where you crossed that line?
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in addition to the other poster's comment pointing out that the charter literally calls for fighting/killing all the Jews in other passages, what _exactly_ do you think their charter means by "invalidating [Israel's existence]". In what world is that not mutually exclusive with Israel existing??
Btw- while there is much debate even among religious Jews about the line between the modern state of Israel and the Jewish religion, there is no debate that they are intimately tied at the core. There are hundreds of commendments relating to the land of Israel, e.g. agricultural laws that do not apply in America or Guam or wherever.
The most prolific commentator (Rashi) points out that the Torah begins with the creation of the world precisely because it needs to establish the Jewish connection to the land of Israel, as both are designated by God to be intertwined in legislature later on in the Torah.
Not saying anyone has to believe this, but, ultimately, one can't _really_ be anti-Zionist without being anti-Jewish, it's just an excuse for politically correct hatred in today's climate.
The religious Jewish identity cannot exist without the land of Israel (hence why it's been in Jewish prayers 3 times a day and after every meal with bread ever since the Roman exile).
Again, because people tend to misunderstand when I point this out- I am not saying the world has to believe this. I am just pointing out the intellectual dishonesty when people say anti-Zionism doesn't imply anti-Jewish. It's just not true when fleshed out fully, and, in my anecdotal experience, when someone claims they are "just" anti-Zionist, they truly do harbor deep hatred for the Jewish people too, irregardless of Israel.