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I really don’t want this in my phone unless I choose to have it, and right now I’m pretty upset that Siri can’t be fully disabled in one switch, but I’ll really

by ok_dad 2y ago

I really don’t want this in my phone unless I choose to have it, and right now I’m pretty upset that Siri can’t be fully disabled in one switch, but I’ll really be much more upset if I have to have ‘Open’AI forced into my life. I truly don’t know what to do today, other than not having a phone, in order to get privacy and a phone that works without any BS.

bamboozled 2y ago
I immediately thought the same, I don’t want it. I personally don’t find ChatGPT very useful. Let’s just hope it’s opt out.
- hackernewds 2y ago
  Curious why not?
  - ghaff 2y ago
    Not the parent but I just don’t. I have used it to basically help with some largely boilerplate writing—as in get a pre-draft down on a page and adapt it from there. Don’t do a lot of programming any longer. It’s sometimes useful but at this point it just isn’t revolutionary for anything I do.
- tropicalbeach 2y ago
  People like this live in the stone age
  - wiseowise 2y ago
    >> I don’t want to use half-baked, heavily censored, hallucinating piece of crap that will affect battery life of my device > you’re living in the Stone Age, lolz
  - weikju 2y ago
    Your comment isn’t helpful to have a good and useful conversation about this. There are multiple viewpoints and levels of acceptance of new technology. Skepticism is healthy and even warranted. We don’t have to gleefully embrace every new shiny thing the tech companies throw at us. Heck the founder of this site himself once wrote an essay cautioning about adopting new services or tech too quickly because it is too often turned against us [1]: > It took a while though—on the order of 100 years. And unless the rate at which social antibodies evolve can increase to match the accelerating rate at which technological progress throws off new addictions, we'll be increasingly unable to rely on customs to protect us. [3] Unless we want to be canaries in the coal mine of each new addiction—the people whose sad example becomes a lesson to future generations—we'll have to figure out for ourselves what to avoid and how. It will actually become a reasonable strategy (or a more reasonable strategy) to suspect everything new. [1] https://paulgraham.com/addiction.html https://paulgraham.com/addiction.html
ThisIsAWhatWhat 2y ago
I'm still using my original SE, and I have Siri turned off. I don't remember it being a hassle. I'd prefer that Apple stop removing valuable functionality and replacing it with junk. The removal of the headphone jack and Touch ID have deterred me from buying a new iPhone. I'm writing an mobile app right now, and I'm targeting iOS 15 so I can run it on my own phone. This requires some non-trivial workarounds to insufferable SwiftUI defects that existed until iOS 17. Meanwhile, Apple refuses to fix the most absurd omission from the iPhone: audible NOTIFICATIONS OF MISSED CALLS. Truly stupid. So yeah... they have some work to do before dicking around with "AI."
- ghaff 2y ago
  Missed calls are junk more often than not. They fall into the vast category of things I don’t want notifications for.
  - illiac786 2y ago
    I don’t understand the logic. Let’s say a call is not spam, for example, family. You are saying you never miss such a call? You never ever leave your phone or are in a situation where you can’t pick up?
    - ghaff 2y ago
      If it’s important they’ll leave a voicemail that I’ll notice sooner or later—as I will that there was a missed call. If it’s a number I don’t recognize and there’s no voicemail I’ll assume it was junk. I just have very few notifications turned on. For example none of my chat programs notify.
      - illiac786 2y ago
        It was never the statement the number is unknown though. You’re talking about your case and you’re applying it to everyone. Some people want more notifications, need more, some don’t (you). I perfectly understand that a missed call can be critical. Some callers are not very bright and don’t understand that if it’s critical they should leave a voicemail or send a message. I deal with such people a lot.
ghaff 2y ago
There are still feature phones. Of course that cuts you off from anything that needs an app.

by ok_dad 2y ago

bamboozled 2y ago

I immediately thought the same, I don’t want it. I personally don’t find ChatGPT very useful. Let’s just hope it’s opt out.

hackernewds 2y ago
Curious why not?
- ghaff 2y ago
  Not the parent but I just don’t. I have used it to basically help with some largely boilerplate writing—as in get a pre-draft down on a page and adapt it from there. Don’t do a lot of programming any longer. It’s sometimes useful but at this point it just isn’t revolutionary for anything I do.
tropicalbeach 2y ago
People like this live in the stone age
- wiseowise 2y ago
  >> I don’t want to use half-baked, heavily censored, hallucinating piece of crap that will affect battery life of my device > you’re living in the Stone Age, lolz
- weikju 2y ago
  Your comment isn’t helpful to have a good and useful conversation about this. There are multiple viewpoints and levels of acceptance of new technology. Skepticism is healthy and even warranted. We don’t have to gleefully embrace every new shiny thing the tech companies throw at us. Heck the founder of this site himself once wrote an essay cautioning about adopting new services or tech too quickly because it is too often turned against us [1]: > It took a while though—on the order of 100 years. And unless the rate at which social antibodies evolve can increase to match the accelerating rate at which technological progress throws off new addictions, we'll be increasingly unable to rely on customs to protect us. [3] Unless we want to be canaries in the coal mine of each new addiction—the people whose sad example becomes a lesson to future generations—we'll have to figure out for ourselves what to avoid and how. It will actually become a reasonable strategy (or a more reasonable strategy) to suspect everything new. [1] https://paulgraham.com/addiction.html https://paulgraham.com/addiction.html

ThisIsAWhatWhat 2y ago

I'm still using my original SE, and I have Siri turned off. I don't remember it being a hassle. I'd prefer that Apple stop removing valuable functionality and replacing it with junk. The removal of the headphone jack and Touch ID have deterred me from buying a new iPhone. I'm writing an mobile app right now, and I'm targeting iOS 15 so I can run it on my own phone. This requires some non-trivial workarounds to insufferable SwiftUI defects that existed until iOS 17. Meanwhile, Apple refuses to fix the most absurd omission from the iPhone: audible NOTIFICATIONS OF MISSED CALLS. Truly stupid. So yeah... they have some work to do before dicking around with "AI."

ghaff 2y ago
Missed calls are junk more often than not. They fall into the vast category of things I don’t want notifications for.
- illiac786 2y ago
  I don’t understand the logic. Let’s say a call is not spam, for example, family. You are saying you never miss such a call? You never ever leave your phone or are in a situation where you can’t pick up?
  - ghaff 2y ago
    If it’s important they’ll leave a voicemail that I’ll notice sooner or later—as I will that there was a missed call. If it’s a number I don’t recognize and there’s no voicemail I’ll assume it was junk. I just have very few notifications turned on. For example none of my chat programs notify.
    - illiac786 2y ago
      It was never the statement the number is unknown though. You’re talking about your case and you’re applying it to everyone. Some people want more notifications, need more, some don’t (you). I perfectly understand that a missed call can be critical. Some callers are not very bright and don’t understand that if it’s critical they should leave a voicemail or send a message. I deal with such people a lot.

ghaff 2y ago

There are still feature phones. Of course that cuts you off from anything that needs an app.