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Odd comment. NPCs inventing details for themselves is the draw. NPCs will be limited by the game requiring the LLM to generate an action ("Move 5 units forward

Odd comment. NPCs inventing details for themselves is the draw. NPCs will be limited by the game requiring the LLM to generate an action ("Move 5 units forward"), and then the game checks that it's a valid action, and rejects invalid ones. If you don't like metagaming LLMs, don't do that, and enjoy a regular roleplaying experience NPCs won't have irrelevant backstories. The backstories generated on the fly for them by an LLM will be incorporated into the overall story. The overall story climax will happen based on player actions, indicating they're ready for the climax, based on the world created by the player's actions and specific instructions. I think you're trying to cram the square peg of limitless, custom narration into the round hole of a premade story. You can experience a decent roleplaying session already with an LLM you can run on your computer. Compute is only going to get cheaper, and LLM capabilities will only increase.

jncfhnb 2y ago
> The overall story climax will happen based on player actions, indicating they're ready for the climax, based on the world created by the player's actions and specific instructions. Which means it’ll be a shit story because the world will not be robust enough to capture the infinite edge cases you’re pursuing. Current LLM DMing is rancid garbage. I’m assuming it gets several iterations better than the current state for us to even begin having this conversation
- gaganyaan 2y ago
  potato/potato. It'll be a great story because it builds on your actual gameplay. It's not infinite edge cases, it's infinite ways to have your actions matter, instead of suffering through some hack writer's idea of a good story. > I’m assuming it gets several iterations better than the current state Yeah, that's the thing. LLMs are only going to improve at this. If you hate all LLM roleplaying everywhere, just wait a few years. Other people will have their own fun with them in the meantime
  - jncfhnb 2y ago
    Guess we’ll see. But I’m pretty sure you’re hugely incorrect.

jncfhnb 2y ago

> The overall story climax will happen based on player actions, indicating they're ready for the climax, based on the world created by the player's actions and specific instructions. Which means it’ll be a shit story because the world will not be robust enough to capture the infinite edge cases you’re pursuing. Current LLM DMing is rancid garbage. I’m assuming it gets several iterations better than the current state for us to even begin having this conversation

gaganyaan 2y ago
potato/potato. It'll be a great story because it builds on your actual gameplay. It's not infinite edge cases, it's infinite ways to have your actions matter, instead of suffering through some hack writer's idea of a good story. > I’m assuming it gets several iterations better than the current state Yeah, that's the thing. LLMs are only going to improve at this. If you hate all LLM roleplaying everywhere, just wait a few years. Other people will have their own fun with them in the meantime
- jncfhnb 2y ago
  Guess we’ll see. But I’m pretty sure you’re hugely incorrect.