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Eh I'll disagree with much of that. RSCs are amazing and basically what I've been looking for for quite a while, using TypeScript and JSX as a templating langua

Eh I'll disagree with much of that. RSCs are amazing and basically what I've been looking for for quite a while, using TypeScript and JSX as a templating language for HTML, as I used to use PHP, but in a much safer way. Similarly, the image optimization is a good thing too, not necessarily that it goes through Vercel's servers but good in general. Dealing with srcsets with many images can be a pain and you can always use alternative image optimizer too, even open source local ones like sharp. Finally, there are lots of alternatives to what you're stating, no one forces you to use NextJS over, say, Remix or Vite with SSR. You can even not use React at all, or even JS / TS, there are lots of languages that compile HTML together.

BoorishBears 3y ago
You're free to disagree but you didn't disagree at all. No one is saying they're not useful at all, the problem is Vercel (or really Rauch's entire cartel of companies) strong arm different technologies and topics to fit a narrative that's disproportionately in favor of "use our thing". RSCs are not amazing if you're not Vercel and don't have access to their closed build format (especially after they killed the serverless output format) I use image optimizers, I'm not about to go around telling people that img tags are bad. > Finally, there are lots of alternatives to what you're stating, no one forces you to use NextJS over, say, Remix or Vite with SSR. Remix had to reject RSCs to start because as one might expect, having one (1) design partner doesn't make for the most fully baked proposition. Also the "there's other choices" refrain ignores the fact that no one is developing in a vacuum. Vercel is pumping enough money into the ecosystem that the mindshare is shifting towards Next regardless of technical merit. So it's not enough to say "who cares if Vercel distorts what Next is, just use something else"
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  Remix is adding RSCs in the future, they've already stated. And Vercel isn't as big in influence as you think, many are also having problems with NextJS that are causing them to go elsewhere such as Vite or Remix as I mentioned. There is no monopoly in the frontend.
- sroussey 3y ago
  Other people are building RSC that are faster and better. Expect some announcements later this year.

BoorishBears 3y ago

You're free to disagree but you didn't disagree at all. No one is saying they're not useful at all, the problem is Vercel (or really Rauch's entire cartel of companies) strong arm different technologies and topics to fit a narrative that's disproportionately in favor of "use our thing". RSCs are not amazing if you're not Vercel and don't have access to their closed build format (especially after they killed the serverless output format) I use image optimizers, I'm not about to go around telling people that img tags are bad. > Finally, there are lots of alternatives to what you're stating, no one forces you to use NextJS over, say, Remix or Vite with SSR. Remix had to reject RSCs to start because as one might expect, having one (1) design partner doesn't make for the most fully baked proposition. Also the "there's other choices" refrain ignores the fact that no one is developing in a vacuum. Vercel is pumping enough money into the ecosystem that the mindshare is shifting towards Next regardless of technical merit. So it's not enough to say "who cares if Vercel distorts what Next is, just use something else"

satvikpendem 3y ago
Remix is adding RSCs in the future, they've already stated. And Vercel isn't as big in influence as you think, many are also having problems with NextJS that are causing them to go elsewhere such as Vite or Remix as I mentioned. There is no monopoly in the frontend.
sroussey 3y ago
Other people are building RSC that are faster and better. Expect some announcements later this year.