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Considering the NYT tells us every single day what the average liberal arts pursuit thinks about the average technologist, I won't worry too much about that.

dogman144 2y ago
Worry about what? I’m pointing out that it’s nice for tech to finally be honest about the view and get a deserving reaction in return after decades of self-congratulation.
- elevatedastalt 2y ago
  Engineers did not make this advertisement. Marketing and creative departments are dominated by business / liberal arts majors. You are really spouting all over the place.
  - dogman144 2y ago
    It seems I have hit a nerve! It is good to have the window turned away from the engineer glorification angle sometimes though.
abvdasker 2y ago
What an unbelievably childish response. What does the New York Times have to do with this ad? What makes you think the New York Times is representative of the "average liberal arts pursuit"? Is the New York Times especially antagonistic towards the tech industry? Do you seriously believe there exists some us-versus-them division between "liberal arts" and "technologists"?
- elevatedastalt 2y ago
  Wow. So the parent comment made exactly the same stupid generalization in the opposite direction, and it was all ok, but show a mirror to it and suddenly you get upset? > Is the New York Times especially antagonistic towards the tech industry? Yes > Do you seriously believe there exists some us-versus-them division between "liberal arts" and "technologists"? Not in real life among friends, but it's definitely a culture war flame that was started and is stoked by media.
  - dogman144 2y ago
    There’s nothing generalized about decades long economic destruction of the creative arts and similar industries in exchange for streaming platforms, instagram, “news”via social media and now AI. But hey RSUs in tech are great, get over it NYT readers!
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- hot_gril 2y ago
  > Do you seriously believe there exists some us-versus-them division between "liberal arts" and "technologists"? Yes. It was obvious in college that the non-STEM majors didn't like the STEM majors or vice versa, but it was more strongly in one direction.
  - abvdasker 2y ago
    As someone who double majored in English and Computer Science this is one of the silliest grievances I've ever heard. For grown adults to still be embittered because of a real or imagined college rivalry seems very petty to me, and frankly unrelated to the issue of whether this Apple ad was distasteful.
    - hot_gril 2y ago
      I'm not bitter about it, it's just that college was the last time I was interacting a lot with people not in STEM fields. All my friends went into technical fields for some reason, even if they started off somewhere else. Nowadays I occasionally get "Where do you work? Oh that company? I hate that company."
      - the_overseer 2y ago
        What a sad existence to only be among STEM people... Ever wondered if you might be the problem?
        hot_gril 2y ago
        Part of the reason I moved out of the Bay Area was I didn't want to be around so many ultra techie people, or for my kids to grow up that way. We'd be happier and even do our jobs better if there were more of a "human touch," and I wish our company had SQLite's code of ethics. But I'm a computer programmer, so even if I'm in a more balanced environment now, all I meant is I simply don't work with artists etc daily.
    - dogman144 2y ago

dogman144 2y ago

Worry about what? I’m pointing out that it’s nice for tech to finally be honest about the view and get a deserving reaction in return after decades of self-congratulation.

elevatedastalt 2y ago
Engineers did not make this advertisement. Marketing and creative departments are dominated by business / liberal arts majors. You are really spouting all over the place.
- dogman144 2y ago
  It seems I have hit a nerve! It is good to have the window turned away from the engineer glorification angle sometimes though.

abvdasker 2y ago

What an unbelievably childish response. What does the New York Times have to do with this ad? What makes you think the New York Times is representative of the "average liberal arts pursuit"? Is the New York Times especially antagonistic towards the tech industry? Do you seriously believe there exists some us-versus-them division between "liberal arts" and "technologists"?

elevatedastalt 2y ago
Wow. So the parent comment made exactly the same stupid generalization in the opposite direction, and it was all ok, but show a mirror to it and suddenly you get upset? > Is the New York Times especially antagonistic towards the tech industry? Yes > Do you seriously believe there exists some us-versus-them division between "liberal arts" and "technologists"? Not in real life among friends, but it's definitely a culture war flame that was started and is stoked by media.
- dogman144 2y ago
  There’s nothing generalized about decades long economic destruction of the creative arts and similar industries in exchange for streaming platforms, instagram, “news”via social media and now AI. But hey RSUs in tech are great, get over it NYT readers!
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hot_gril 2y ago
> Do you seriously believe there exists some us-versus-them division between "liberal arts" and "technologists"? Yes. It was obvious in college that the non-STEM majors didn't like the STEM majors or vice versa, but it was more strongly in one direction.
- abvdasker 2y ago
  As someone who double majored in English and Computer Science this is one of the silliest grievances I've ever heard. For grown adults to still be embittered because of a real or imagined college rivalry seems very petty to me, and frankly unrelated to the issue of whether this Apple ad was distasteful.
  - hot_gril 2y ago
    I'm not bitter about it, it's just that college was the last time I was interacting a lot with people not in STEM fields. All my friends went into technical fields for some reason, even if they started off somewhere else. Nowadays I occasionally get "Where do you work? Oh that company? I hate that company."
    - the_overseer 2y ago
      What a sad existence to only be among STEM people... Ever wondered if you might be the problem?
      - hot_gril 2y ago
        Part of the reason I moved out of the Bay Area was I didn't want to be around so many ultra techie people, or for my kids to grow up that way. We'd be happier and even do our jobs better if there were more of a "human touch," and I wish our company had SQLite's code of ethics. But I'm a computer programmer, so even if I'm in a more balanced environment now, all I meant is I simply don't work with artists etc daily.
  - dogman144 2y ago