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A quieter world is one where the outdoors is quieter because we stop producing so much noise in the first place. This would benefit us and wildlife, which are v

by goda90 2y ago

A quieter world is one where the outdoors is quieter because we stop producing so much noise in the first place. This would benefit us and wildlife, which are very negatively impacted by not just our classic pollution but our noise and light pollution too.

wetpaws 2y ago
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2trill2spill 2y ago
Agreed, its one of the many reasons I cant wait for the shift from ICE vehicles to EVs, they are just so much quieter.
- nixass 2y ago
  If you're nearby any moderately busy road it's not the engine what makes noise but the tires and then air going around the car. Engine/exhaust noise is a problem but easy to solve
  - pixl97 2y ago
    Yep, there are plenty of ICE vehicles that are quite. A large number of cars/small trucks that are loud are designed that way because the roaring engine noise sells the car.
  - BeFlatXIII 2y ago
    I believe it bas to do more with vehicular speed than business. At low speeds, engine noise dominates; on a freeway, it’s the tyres.
  - lolinder 2y ago
    > Engine/exhaust noise is a problem but easy to solve It's easy from a technical standpoint but practically impossible from a human one. The vast majority of people simply don't notice or care that some large percentage of vehicles are intentionally modified to be louder than the legal maximum. Police won't enforce it, and most citizens barely register the noise as present, much less a problem. Banning ICE vehicles altogether may very well be the only thing that actually gets the problem solved, since that actually has more momentum behind it than enforcement of existing noise regulations does.
    - ldoughty 2y ago
      I'm not sure "large percentage" is a statement I'd agree with, my searching skills are failing me, do you have any kind of source for that? I'd be shocked if it was over 5%...
      - cassianoleal 2y ago
        I live near a medium-busy street. I haven't seen actual numbers but it wouldn't surprise me if at peak hours there are over 100 cars passing per minute. If 5% of those are overly loud, that's an average of a very loud noise every 3 seconds, and most of them will take somewhere between 5 and 10 seconds to come and finally go away. If you don't think that's large, we have very different noise thresholds.
      - lolinder 2y ago
        I guess "large" is subjective. 1-5% is the ballpark I have in my head based on experience, which qualifies as "large" to me when I get passed by thousands of cars a day. The hard numbers I'm aware of are about motorcycles, which have much higher rates of illegal modifications than other vehicles. This source documents a bunch of other sources, with estimates ranging from 40-70%: https://noisefree.org/sources-of-noise/motorcycles/ https://noisefree.org/sources-of-noise/motorcycles/
    - smegger001 2y ago
      People that purposefully install loader than necessary pipes on their vehicles ought to be forced to stay awake by having a marching band play nonstop in their bedroom until the loud exhaust pipe is removed
  - mrtesthah 2y ago
    Quiet asphalt is a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8
  - llsf 2y ago
    I found this to be true for cars and maybe trucks, but not for motorbikes. Some extreme motorbikes rattle all parked cars and trigger alarms. When Harley-Davidson and other moppet/scooters would be all electric, that would be quitter.
    - lukan 2y ago
      "When Harley-Davidson and other moppet/scooters would be all electric, that would be quitter." Not that easy, the electric Harley is intentionally louder than the combustion version - because people want them loud. (I am not a fan of banning in general, but banning noise is fine by me)
  - Alupis 2y ago
    > If you're nearby any moderately busy road it's not the engine what makes noise but the tires and then air going around the car. You cannot even hear modern ICE cars running unless you are really close to them. My neighbor's garage door opener is louder than his ICE car... Road noise is tires/air like you mentioned. Not a real way to deal with that.
- pixl97 2y ago
  Yes and no at the same time. Tire noise is significant which is also a function of vehicle weight, speed, and tire design. You tend not to notice the tire noise as most of our interaction with cars is in places like parking lots where engine noise is much more pronounced.
  - johnchristopher 2y ago
    Depends what we are talking about. In Europe, uber EV moped drivers are sooooo much nicer than the regular ones. Most of our interaction with cars are on side walks, along moving cars.
- tayo42 2y ago
  There is still honking, car alarms, and bass
ineedaj0b 2y ago
You might be forgetting about how loud birds can be. At least twice a week I'll wake up to birds chirping until at least 7am. They are extremely loud, second only to no muffler cars and sport bikes blasting through deserted back roads. If you live in the woods with trees, they'll sound as loud as the ocean. If you live near the ocean, well that's always loud. The biggest offenders are: 1. cars/trucks 2. birds 3. airplanes 4. ac units 5. ocean 6. wind with trees You'd never know trees sound like the ocean if you aren't around trees. Trains are loud but intermittent. And trains don't run very often anymore where I am.
- lupire 2y ago
  DDT helps with the birds.
  - TeMPOraL 2y ago
    So does a pellet gun. GP is very right. To this day, I know that if I don't go to sleep until ~03:30, I might just as well stay up - when the birds wake and start making noise, I won't be able to sleep at all. Cars, trams, trains, I can tune out. There's something about bird chirps that makes them impossible for my brain to ignore. It's worse than loud snoring.
    - wahnfrieden 2y ago
      earplugs
    - bufordtwain 2y ago
      Interesting - I love the sound of birds and can go right back to sleep when they are chirping outside and I have the window open. Road noise on the other hand...
- hinkley 2y ago
  Cicadas. Jesus Christ.
- spinach 2y ago

by goda90 2y ago

wetpaws 2y ago

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2trill2spill 2y ago

Agreed, its one of the many reasons I cant wait for the shift from ICE vehicles to EVs, they are just so much quieter.

nixass 2y ago
If you're nearby any moderately busy road it's not the engine what makes noise but the tires and then air going around the car. Engine/exhaust noise is a problem but easy to solve
- pixl97 2y ago
  Yep, there are plenty of ICE vehicles that are quite. A large number of cars/small trucks that are loud are designed that way because the roaring engine noise sells the car.
- BeFlatXIII 2y ago
  I believe it bas to do more with vehicular speed than business. At low speeds, engine noise dominates; on a freeway, it’s the tyres.
- lolinder 2y ago
  > Engine/exhaust noise is a problem but easy to solve It's easy from a technical standpoint but practically impossible from a human one. The vast majority of people simply don't notice or care that some large percentage of vehicles are intentionally modified to be louder than the legal maximum. Police won't enforce it, and most citizens barely register the noise as present, much less a problem. Banning ICE vehicles altogether may very well be the only thing that actually gets the problem solved, since that actually has more momentum behind it than enforcement of existing noise regulations does.
  - ldoughty 2y ago
    I'm not sure "large percentage" is a statement I'd agree with, my searching skills are failing me, do you have any kind of source for that? I'd be shocked if it was over 5%...
    - cassianoleal 2y ago
      I live near a medium-busy street. I haven't seen actual numbers but it wouldn't surprise me if at peak hours there are over 100 cars passing per minute. If 5% of those are overly loud, that's an average of a very loud noise every 3 seconds, and most of them will take somewhere between 5 and 10 seconds to come and finally go away. If you don't think that's large, we have very different noise thresholds.
    - lolinder 2y ago
      I guess "large" is subjective. 1-5% is the ballpark I have in my head based on experience, which qualifies as "large" to me when I get passed by thousands of cars a day. The hard numbers I'm aware of are about motorcycles, which have much higher rates of illegal modifications than other vehicles. This source documents a bunch of other sources, with estimates ranging from 40-70%: https://noisefree.org/sources-of-noise/motorcycles/ https://noisefree.org/sources-of-noise/motorcycles/
  - smegger001 2y ago
    People that purposefully install loader than necessary pipes on their vehicles ought to be forced to stay awake by having a marching band play nonstop in their bedroom until the loud exhaust pipe is removed
- mrtesthah 2y ago
  Quiet asphalt is a thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTV-wwszGw8
- llsf 2y ago
  I found this to be true for cars and maybe trucks, but not for motorbikes. Some extreme motorbikes rattle all parked cars and trigger alarms. When Harley-Davidson and other moppet/scooters would be all electric, that would be quitter.
  - lukan 2y ago
    "When Harley-Davidson and other moppet/scooters would be all electric, that would be quitter." Not that easy, the electric Harley is intentionally louder than the combustion version - because people want them loud. (I am not a fan of banning in general, but banning noise is fine by me)
- Alupis 2y ago
  > If you're nearby any moderately busy road it's not the engine what makes noise but the tires and then air going around the car. You cannot even hear modern ICE cars running unless you are really close to them. My neighbor's garage door opener is louder than his ICE car... Road noise is tires/air like you mentioned. Not a real way to deal with that.
pixl97 2y ago
Yes and no at the same time. Tire noise is significant which is also a function of vehicle weight, speed, and tire design. You tend not to notice the tire noise as most of our interaction with cars is in places like parking lots where engine noise is much more pronounced.
- johnchristopher 2y ago
  Depends what we are talking about. In Europe, uber EV moped drivers are sooooo much nicer than the regular ones. Most of our interaction with cars are on side walks, along moving cars.
tayo42 2y ago
There is still honking, car alarms, and bass

ineedaj0b 2y ago

You might be forgetting about how loud birds can be. At least twice a week I'll wake up to birds chirping until at least 7am. They are extremely loud, second only to no muffler cars and sport bikes blasting through deserted back roads. If you live in the woods with trees, they'll sound as loud as the ocean. If you live near the ocean, well that's always loud. The biggest offenders are: 1. cars/trucks 2. birds 3. airplanes 4. ac units 5. ocean 6. wind with trees You'd never know trees sound like the ocean if you aren't around trees. Trains are loud but intermittent. And trains don't run very often anymore where I am.

lupire 2y ago
DDT helps with the birds.
- TeMPOraL 2y ago
  So does a pellet gun. GP is very right. To this day, I know that if I don't go to sleep until ~03:30, I might just as well stay up - when the birds wake and start making noise, I won't be able to sleep at all. Cars, trams, trains, I can tune out. There's something about bird chirps that makes them impossible for my brain to ignore. It's worse than loud snoring.
  - wahnfrieden 2y ago
    earplugs
  - bufordtwain 2y ago
    Interesting - I love the sound of birds and can go right back to sleep when they are chirping outside and I have the window open. Road noise on the other hand...
hinkley 2y ago
Cicadas. Jesus Christ.
spinach 2y ago