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The intention is that they'll be identical, because they'll be written using Avalonia. And I hate Electron. I hate it so much. I hate the web pages that I'm be

The intention is that they'll be identical, because they'll be written using Avalonia. And I hate Electron. I hate it so much. I hate the web pages that I'm being told are "apps". I hate the lack of keyboard shortcut support. I hate the bad performance. I hate how it's not stick-to-your-finger fast. I hate owning unbelievably powerful computers and mobile devices and not taking advantage of their power and capabilities, and just reducing them to surfaces for fake "apps". I refuse to not deliver native apps with Grace.

kstrauser 2y ago
This we can agree on. Thanks for making that a design goal!
PontifexMinimus 2y ago
> And I hate Electron I'm not a fan of it either. When I say have a web UI, I don't mean electron, I mean the program runs as a web server on some port your local machine and you point you web browser at it. I don't think electron should exist. > I hate the lack of keyboard shortcut support And I hate the existence of keyboard shortcuts, or at least hard-to-discover ones. On a daily basis I accidentally press keys (I've no idea which ones) that make my windows misbehave. I also don't think I should have to learn keyboard shortcuts -- interfaces should be discoverable and not require you to memorise stuff. > I hate the bad performance. Then use a text UI not a GUI. Back in the day, Borland made extensive use of these for Turbo Pascal and they worked well and looked good. As a bonus (like a web app) they can run easily on an external machine. > I hate how it's not stick-to-your-finger fast. I've used git for years and before it other source control systems. I don't remember a single instance where the slowness of the source control system was ever a factor.
robertlagrant 2y ago
Don't Electron keyboard shortcuts[0] do what you want? [0] https://pbelay.github.io/electron/tutorial/keyboard-shortcuts.html https://pbelay.github.io/electron/tutorial/keyboard-shortcut...

kstrauser 2y ago

This we can agree on. Thanks for making that a design goal!

PontifexMinimus 2y ago

> And I hate Electron I'm not a fan of it either. When I say have a web UI, I don't mean electron, I mean the program runs as a web server on some port your local machine and you point you web browser at it. I don't think electron should exist. > I hate the lack of keyboard shortcut support And I hate the existence of keyboard shortcuts, or at least hard-to-discover ones. On a daily basis I accidentally press keys (I've no idea which ones) that make my windows misbehave. I also don't think I should have to learn keyboard shortcuts -- interfaces should be discoverable and not require you to memorise stuff. > I hate the bad performance. Then use a text UI not a GUI. Back in the day, Borland made extensive use of these for Turbo Pascal and they worked well and looked good. As a bonus (like a web app) they can run easily on an external machine. > I hate how it's not stick-to-your-finger fast. I've used git for years and before it other source control systems. I don't remember a single instance where the slowness of the source control system was ever a factor.

robertlagrant 2y ago

Don't Electron keyboard shortcuts[0] do what you want? [0] https://pbelay.github.io/electron/tutorial/keyboard-shortcuts.html https://pbelay.github.io/electron/tutorial/keyboard-shortcut...