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This isn't terribly specific but its an encrypted chat app from an authoritarian country that in practice is accepted and used by the government. It has furthe

This isn't terribly specific but its an encrypted chat app from an authoritarian country that in practice is accepted and used by the government. It has further managed to survive an increasingly tight enviornment for censorship and free expression that is distinctly worse than when the app launched.

josh2600 2y ago
Almost all chats on telegram are in fact unencrypted. The only chats that use their e2ee protocol are the ones that use the secret chat functionality which almost no one uses.
dclowd9901 2y ago
And is also often recommended for use by phishers and scammers. The whole fucking thing should die in a fire.
- medo-bear 2y ago
  Give me Telegram over Discord any day
  - sircastor 2y ago
    It’s not zero sum. You can easily use both. And I Rubin is reasonable to say that you miss out on some community if you are exclusive to one platform.
    - medo-bear 2y ago
      > The whole fucking thing should die in a fire. I was responding to this. But in most cases people will end up using the things that their communities use. I don't care much for reddit yet I am on reddit almost every day
- supriyo-biswas 2y ago
  FWIW Telegram's APIs are nice and I use it to send alerts from various systems to myself for some hobby projects. Discord has that whole thing with "servers" (should really be called communities) and I found it a little complicated for that use case.
  - 1f60c 2y ago
    > communities Discord itself calls them "guilds" internally. :)
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  Every online service has its fair share of malicious actors though, that isn't limited to Telegram. Whatsapp is used for a big chunk of phishing and scams in the Netherlands for example.
- Klonoar 2y ago
  > The whole fucking thing should die in a fire. Well, not everything. I dream of a world where Signal forks the UI layer from Telegram and then just does their thing. (Who knows, the chat input might just finally focus when I tab back to the fucking window if they do that.)

josh2600 2y ago

Almost all chats on telegram are in fact unencrypted. The only chats that use their e2ee protocol are the ones that use the secret chat functionality which almost no one uses.

dclowd9901 2y ago

And is also often recommended for use by phishers and scammers. The whole fucking thing should die in a fire.

medo-bear 2y ago
Give me Telegram over Discord any day
- sircastor 2y ago
  It’s not zero sum. You can easily use both. And I Rubin is reasonable to say that you miss out on some community if you are exclusive to one platform.
  - medo-bear 2y ago
    > The whole fucking thing should die in a fire. I was responding to this. But in most cases people will end up using the things that their communities use. I don't care much for reddit yet I am on reddit almost every day
supriyo-biswas 2y ago
FWIW Telegram's APIs are nice and I use it to send alerts from various systems to myself for some hobby projects. Discord has that whole thing with "servers" (should really be called communities) and I found it a little complicated for that use case.
- 1f60c 2y ago
  > communities Discord itself calls them "guilds" internally. :)
Cthulhu_ 2y ago
Every online service has its fair share of malicious actors though, that isn't limited to Telegram. Whatsapp is used for a big chunk of phishing and scams in the Netherlands for example.
Klonoar 2y ago
> The whole fucking thing should die in a fire. Well, not everything. I dream of a world where Signal forks the UI layer from Telegram and then just does their thing. (Who knows, the chat input might just finally focus when I tab back to the fucking window if they do that.)