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I felt like I had seen a number of people move to Machine in the Middle, because that's what it is anyways.

croes 2y ago
That's misleading because there always at least one machine in the middle unless your smartphones have a direct connection.
- conradludgate 2y ago
  A colleague of mine says Meddler in the Middle
  - hnlmorg 2y ago
    That’s a really neat alternative. I might start using that myself
  - tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
    And this (in addition to the "this is the RIGHT way and if you do it the old way you're implicitly EVIL" self-righteousness) is why I have a problem with all the pseudo-DEI language changes: They hinder communication. Instead of one universally accepted term, you now come across at least half a dozen "better" alternatives for everything, and each time have to figure out what they mean, and whether they're just a more politically correct term for something existing, or imply some kind of actual difference.
- dtech 2y ago
  We're talking about cryptographic shorthand here for which it seems perfectly fine. You might as well complain that not all message senders are called Alice.
  - croes 2y ago
    Alice and Bob are not inclusive
- acer4666 2y ago
  It's about being in the middle of the encrypted tunnel, not the network traffic. It's no more misleading than saying "man".
  - croes 2y ago
    If you already now it's about an encrypted tunnel you also know it isn't literally a man. Especially because PITM is already used in other contexts https://www.acronymfinder.com/PITM.html https://www.acronymfinder.com/PITM.html
donatj 2y ago
Seems way more fitting these days. There’s certainly not a person, in the middle, inspecting bytes.
- Cthulhu_ 2y ago
  Unless... we've been lied to all this time and there's an army of peons on phones hand-typing out bytes at improbable speed! Wake up sheeple!
HL33tibCe7 2y ago
That’s not really accurate though because a MITM might be taking place on your own machine

That's misleading because there always at least one machine in the middle unless your smartphones have a direct connection.

conradludgate 2y ago
A colleague of mine says Meddler in the Middle
- hnlmorg 2y ago
  That’s a really neat alternative. I might start using that myself
- tgsovlerkhgsel 2y ago
  And this (in addition to the "this is the RIGHT way and if you do it the old way you're implicitly EVIL" self-righteousness) is why I have a problem with all the pseudo-DEI language changes: They hinder communication. Instead of one universally accepted term, you now come across at least half a dozen "better" alternatives for everything, and each time have to figure out what they mean, and whether they're just a more politically correct term for something existing, or imply some kind of actual difference.
dtech 2y ago
We're talking about cryptographic shorthand here for which it seems perfectly fine. You might as well complain that not all message senders are called Alice.
- croes 2y ago
  Alice and Bob are not inclusive
acer4666 2y ago
It's about being in the middle of the encrypted tunnel, not the network traffic. It's no more misleading than saying "man".
- croes 2y ago
  If you already now it's about an encrypted tunnel you also know it isn't literally a man. Especially because PITM is already used in other contexts https://www.acronymfinder.com/PITM.html https://www.acronymfinder.com/PITM.html

donatj 2y ago

Seems way more fitting these days. There’s certainly not a person, in the middle, inspecting bytes.

Cthulhu_ 2y ago
Unless... we've been lied to all this time and there's an army of peons on phones hand-typing out bytes at improbable speed! Wake up sheeple!

HL33tibCe7 2y ago

That’s not really accurate though because a MITM might be taking place on your own machine