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“All” I want from Mycroft is first-class rust support in Visual Studio. The rumors that they’ve been working on it are several years old now.

vsnf 2y ago
I used to spend my entire life inside Visual Studio, but my life has mostly moved to VS Code, where the Rust Analyzer extension provides a really nice experience. Granted, on rare occasions the extension fails for some byzantine reason, and language support in VS has always been rock solid, but would it really be that much better than life within VSCode? I'm not sure, but maybe it would?
- binary132 2y ago
  What differentiates this from any other editor with a Rust plugin? Visual Studio is an entirely different animal.
  - vsnf 2y ago
    I guess that’s my point though. What is desirable about Visual Studio itself these days that one would need Rust support in it? I don’t see it as having much of an edge, especially in areas where tight Windows integration isn’t necessary.
    - binary132 2y ago
      IMO VS proper has a lot of great features, especially around runtime analysis, profiling, debugging, etc. I’m pretty annoyed that they only offer the full-fledged version for Windows. I’m an Emacs user on Linux, Mac, and windows, but I will drop into VS at times when command-line debugging isn’t satisfactory. That said, I haven’t sorted out DAP yet.
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dehrmann 2y ago
Why not RustRover?
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- jen20 2y ago
  In my case because of [1], which makes working with a particular library I need to use almost impossible. I went from exclusively using JetBrains tools to having VS Code installed for rust-analyzer, which is a slippery slope. [1]: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/RUST-13097 https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/RUST-13097
  - dehrmann 2y ago
    You might have better luck waiting out that bug than holding your breath for full support from MS (where they'll have an equally annoying bug).
- ComputerGuru 2y ago
  The visual studio debugger is just leagues beyond the rest.
Hamuko 2y ago
Why specifically Visual Studio for Rust?
- ComputerGuru 2y ago
  The debugger.

vsnf 2y ago

I used to spend my entire life inside Visual Studio, but my life has mostly moved to VS Code, where the Rust Analyzer extension provides a really nice experience. Granted, on rare occasions the extension fails for some byzantine reason, and language support in VS has always been rock solid, but would it really be that much better than life within VSCode? I'm not sure, but maybe it would?

binary132 2y ago
What differentiates this from any other editor with a Rust plugin? Visual Studio is an entirely different animal.
- vsnf 2y ago
  I guess that’s my point though. What is desirable about Visual Studio itself these days that one would need Rust support in it? I don’t see it as having much of an edge, especially in areas where tight Windows integration isn’t necessary.
  - binary132 2y ago
    IMO VS proper has a lot of great features, especially around runtime analysis, profiling, debugging, etc. I’m pretty annoyed that they only offer the full-fledged version for Windows. I’m an Emacs user on Linux, Mac, and windows, but I will drop into VS at times when command-line debugging isn’t satisfactory. That said, I haven’t sorted out DAP yet.
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dehrmann 2y ago

Why not RustRover?

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jen20 2y ago
In my case because of [1], which makes working with a particular library I need to use almost impossible. I went from exclusively using JetBrains tools to having VS Code installed for rust-analyzer, which is a slippery slope. [1]: https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/RUST-13097 https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/RUST-13097
- dehrmann 2y ago
  You might have better luck waiting out that bug than holding your breath for full support from MS (where they'll have an equally annoying bug).
ComputerGuru 2y ago
The visual studio debugger is just leagues beyond the rest.

Hamuko 2y ago

Why specifically Visual Studio for Rust?

ComputerGuru 2y ago
The debugger.