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A Record of Old Kashgar

65 points by Thevet 2y ago

sedatk 2y ago
Kashgar is significant in Turkic culture. The oldest comprehensive dictionary for Turkic languages was written by Mahmud Al-Kashgari in 11th century. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_al-Kashgari https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_al-Kashgari
lukasb 2y ago
Here are some photos I took in Kashgar in 2008: https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=kashgar&w=36101702059%40N01 https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=kashgar&w=36101702059%40N01 And some stories from my visit: https://theporouscity.com/show.pl/1980?id=1980 https://theporouscity.com/show.pl/1980?id=1980 Wonderful place. Unspeakable what's been done to the people there.
- jahnu 2y ago
  I was travelling through Xinjiang in 2010 and it was an amazing place to visit, although I didn't manage to travel down to Kashgar. I was in Turpan and noticed some signs on doors of Uighur houses and managed to find a foreigner who could read Chinese and translate for me. He explained it basically says "A good/loyal Uighur family lives here". Quite disturbing. Since I've been there several of the mosques have been torn down, built over, or shut down. A recent Drum Tower episode (paywall) visited Xinjiang and talked about this: https://shows.acast.com/drumtower/episodes/drum-tower-ramadan-in-xinjiang https://shows.acast.com/drumtower/episodes/drum-tower-ramada...
alephnerd 2y ago
Always wanted to visit Kashgar as well as the rest of the Tarim Basin, but sad I'll never get the chance. There are multiple Uyghur Sarais littered across the high Himalayas from an era when commerce still passed on the back of a Yak Highways like the G219, G314, the Leh-Manali, etc are all based on older trade routes from a bygone era, and now increasingly carry troops instead of tourists or commerce.
- selimthegrim 2y ago
  My friend did the KKH from Islamabad to Kashgar (at the very least Havelian to Tashkurgan) about 15-20 years ago. He may have some digitized photos.
  - alephnerd 2y ago
    Oh whoa! That's pretty dope!
    - selimthegrim 2y ago
      Yeah his mom is from Swat and his dad was from Hasanabdal so it makes sense they started at Havelian lol
- chadk 2y ago
  There is a fascinating 2019 photo essay of Kashgar that I link to in my post remembering my trip in 2004, when Kashgar looked a lot different from now (I include a few pics) https://chadkohalyk.com/2019/04/07/kashgar-15-years-later/ https://chadkohalyk.com/2019/04/07/kashgar-15-years-later/
trainsarebetter 2y ago
Death to the dream of the American lawn!

65 points by Thevet 2y ago

Kashgar is significant in Turkic culture. The oldest comprehensive dictionary for Turkic languages was written by Mahmud Al-Kashgari in 11th century. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_al-Kashgari https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmud_al-Kashgari

lukasb 2y ago

Here are some photos I took in Kashgar in 2008: https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=kashgar&w=36101702059%40N01 https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=kashgar&w=36101702059%40N01 And some stories from my visit: https://theporouscity.com/show.pl/1980?id=1980 https://theporouscity.com/show.pl/1980?id=1980 Wonderful place. Unspeakable what's been done to the people there.

jahnu 2y ago
I was travelling through Xinjiang in 2010 and it was an amazing place to visit, although I didn't manage to travel down to Kashgar. I was in Turpan and noticed some signs on doors of Uighur houses and managed to find a foreigner who could read Chinese and translate for me. He explained it basically says "A good/loyal Uighur family lives here". Quite disturbing. Since I've been there several of the mosques have been torn down, built over, or shut down. A recent Drum Tower episode (paywall) visited Xinjiang and talked about this: https://shows.acast.com/drumtower/episodes/drum-tower-ramadan-in-xinjiang https://shows.acast.com/drumtower/episodes/drum-tower-ramada...

alephnerd 2y ago

Always wanted to visit Kashgar as well as the rest of the Tarim Basin, but sad I'll never get the chance. There are multiple Uyghur Sarais littered across the high Himalayas from an era when commerce still passed on the back of a Yak Highways like the G219, G314, the Leh-Manali, etc are all based on older trade routes from a bygone era, and now increasingly carry troops instead of tourists or commerce.

selimthegrim 2y ago
My friend did the KKH from Islamabad to Kashgar (at the very least Havelian to Tashkurgan) about 15-20 years ago. He may have some digitized photos.
- alephnerd 2y ago
  Oh whoa! That's pretty dope!
  - selimthegrim 2y ago
    Yeah his mom is from Swat and his dad was from Hasanabdal so it makes sense they started at Havelian lol
chadk 2y ago
There is a fascinating 2019 photo essay of Kashgar that I link to in my post remembering my trip in 2004, when Kashgar looked a lot different from now (I include a few pics) https://chadkohalyk.com/2019/04/07/kashgar-15-years-later/ https://chadkohalyk.com/2019/04/07/kashgar-15-years-later/

trainsarebetter 2y ago

Death to the dream of the American lawn!