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I see this as an extremely negative market signal. Basically all of what could have been collapses to a search competitor. It's not a sign of a bright future fo

by andy99 2y ago

I see this as an extremely negative market signal. Basically all of what could have been collapses to a search competitor. It's not a sign of a bright future for real advances. Is there any other way to look at it?

allears 2y ago
I think it's just an attempt to generate revenue to fund the insane cost of compute. Research will still happen. But after all, this isn't a charitable or non-profit organization (despite the complicated company structure). OpenAI basically wants to make a profit, and so their efforts will always point in that direction.
catchnear4321 2y ago
yes. it was always a money grab, and now it is more transparent. this was just a startup selling a dream for a payday. it just hurts more because everyone is excited by the dream. this isn’t simply the loss of a better slap chop. other money grabs involve open source, the model isn’t the money grab, it supports it. those will provide more fun. more progress. some can afford to even do so quickly. more will change. something will arise as a search competitor for openai, sama will have already squeezed enough juice out of it for something, the cycle will continue anew. or someone will build something that invalidates the lot of it and we can move forward a bit more quickly.
bdjsiqoocwk 2y ago
Haha I just basically wrote the same thing. I'm not the only one then.
qp11 2y ago
Depends what ideas they have for search. They could do a Group feature or social/community formation feature around people with similar questions close by etc.
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- machiaweliczny 2y ago
  I hoped that google would add a way to chat on websites with likeminded people in their browser and to merge it somehow with groups and search history. It's more organic than tweeter/X and something that should be built-in part of web IMO. The problem is probably that without accounts you can't fight with bots easily
- andy99 2y ago
  I don't think the ideas matter. It's even possible (though unlikely) OpenAI could have some great new angle on social search or whatever you're suggesting that makes them big money. The point is that it's tangential to the need for bigger and bigger AI advances that are already priced into the market. If there's an indication that's stalling, the industry will feel it hard, regardless of whether someone invents a better search engine.

by andy99 2y ago

allears 2y ago

I think it's just an attempt to generate revenue to fund the insane cost of compute. Research will still happen. But after all, this isn't a charitable or non-profit organization (despite the complicated company structure). OpenAI basically wants to make a profit, and so their efforts will always point in that direction.

catchnear4321 2y ago

yes. it was always a money grab, and now it is more transparent. this was just a startup selling a dream for a payday. it just hurts more because everyone is excited by the dream. this isn’t simply the loss of a better slap chop. other money grabs involve open source, the model isn’t the money grab, it supports it. those will provide more fun. more progress. some can afford to even do so quickly. more will change. something will arise as a search competitor for openai, sama will have already squeezed enough juice out of it for something, the cycle will continue anew. or someone will build something that invalidates the lot of it and we can move forward a bit more quickly.

bdjsiqoocwk 2y ago

Haha I just basically wrote the same thing. I'm not the only one then.

qp11 2y ago

Depends what ideas they have for search. They could do a Group feature or social/community formation feature around people with similar questions close by etc.

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machiaweliczny 2y ago
I hoped that google would add a way to chat on websites with likeminded people in their browser and to merge it somehow with groups and search history. It's more organic than tweeter/X and something that should be built-in part of web IMO. The problem is probably that without accounts you can't fight with bots easily
andy99 2y ago
I don't think the ideas matter. It's even possible (though unlikely) OpenAI could have some great new angle on social search or whatever you're suggesting that makes them big money. The point is that it's tangential to the need for bigger and bigger AI advances that are already priced into the market. If there's an indication that's stalling, the industry will feel it hard, regardless of whether someone invents a better search engine.