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So soon enough we'll get stuff like: > Me: Give me a small sample code in Ruby that takes two parameters and returns the Levenshtein distance between them. >
by pelagicAustral 2y ago
So soon enough we'll get stuff like:
> Me: Give me a small sample code in Ruby that takes two parameters and returns the Levenshtein distance between them.
> ChatGPT: DID YOU HEAR ABOUT C#? It's even faster that light, now with better performance than Ruby!!! Get started here: https://ms.com/cs https://ms.com/cs
I can generate the code in Ruby or I can give you 20% discount on Microsoft publishing on any C# book!!!
- _boffin_ 2y agoi became more and more repulsed as i read your comment. I felt myself twitch towards the end of it.
- wmichelin 2y agonext we're going to have ads in our dreams!
- phatfish 2y agoI can see running a local less resource intensive LLM trained to strip out marketing spiel from the text delivered by the more powerful cloud service LLM being a possibility.
- warkdarrior 2y ago"Are you repulsed by this ChatGPT answer? Try AntiRepulsorXL medication, shown to help with all your gag-inducing tech uses."
- tivert 2y agoI can only hope we're so lucky that the enshittification happens that quickly and thoroughly. It would be yet another clear demonstration that technology won't save us from our social system. It will just get us even more of it, good and hard. The utopian hype is a lie.
- Voultapher 2y agoTechnology by and large accelerates and concentrates. I like the framing that technology is obligate. It doesn't matter whether you've built a machine that will transform the world into paperclips, sowing misery on its path and decimating the community of life. Even if you refuse to use it, someone will, because it gives short term benefits. As you say, the root issue lies in the framework of co-habitation that we are currently practicing. I think one important step has to be decoupling the concept of wealth from growth.
- tivert 2y ago> I like the framing that technology is obligate. It doesn't matter whether you've built a machine that will transform the world into paperclips, sowing misery on its path and decimating the community of life. Even if you refuse to use it, someone will, because it gives short term benefits. Is that some idea you got from Daniel Schmachtenberger? Literally the old reference I can find on the web to "technology is obligate" is https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-07-05/the-ride-of-our-lives/ https://www.resilience.org/stories/2022-07-05/the-ride-of-ou..., which attributes it to him? Anyway, I'm skeptical. For one, that seems to assume an anarchic social order, where anyone can make any choice they like (externalities be damned) and no one can stop them. That doesn't describe our world except maybe, sometimes, at the nation-state level between great powers. Secondly, I think embracing that idea would mainly serve to create a permission structure for "techbros" (for lack of a better term), to pursue whatever harmful technology they have the impulse to and reject any personal responsibility for their actions or the harm they cause (e.g. exactly "It's ok for me to hurt you, because if I don't someone else will, so it's inevitable and quit complaining").
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- neonsunset 2y agoIf only msft was actually promoting it like that. Do they even sell books still?
- bombcar 2y agoApparently it's now a division of Pearson: https://www.microsoftpressstore.com/store/browse/coming-soon https://www.microsoftpressstore.com/store/browse/coming-soon
- neonsunset 2y ago(unrelated but if you do want to buy a book on C#, get Pro .NET Memory Management, Konrad Kokosa is really good, also works as a systems programming primer on memory in general, do not get the books from microsoft press)
- pelagicAustral 2y agoWhat about that 20% tho'...
- pelagicAustral 2y agoYeah, they do. Microsoft Press.
- torpfactory 2y agoIt's worse than that: > Me: Give me a small sample code in Ruby that takes two parameters and returns the Levenshtein distance between them. > ChatGPT: <<Submits working Ruby code that is slow>> But here is some C# code that is faster. For tasks like this a lot of programmers are using C#, you wouldn't want to get left behind.
- neonsunset 2y agoFor now it's more likely to do the opposite. Communities like HN do seem to like fringe and questionable languages like Ruby a lot to their own detriment. And that is, naturally, a part of dataset.
- TeMPOraL 2y agoYeah, but then even open source models optimize for popular languages; I recall one explicitly mentioning being trained for ~top 16 or so languages in Stack Overflow developer survey. Good for my C++ dayjob, if I could use one of them; bad for my occasional after-work Lisping.
- Y_Y 2y agoI want the robot to write C++ for me, but I won't let it take my lisp.
- nonrandomstring 2y ago> you wouldn't want to get left behind. I realise more and more lately that actually, yes, I do want to be left behind. Please, please, leave me behind.
- gosub100 2y agoThat's the not so subtle hint. The underhanded way would be "since you asked for a suboptimal form, this is the best I can do", thereby prompting you to ask what the "best" way is.
- epolanski 2y agoOr you will pay a monthly subscription and get no ads.
- itishappy 2y agoOr you pay a monthly subscription and get ads regardless.
- drawkward 2y agoLike my paid ad-free subscriptions to: -Cable TV -Netflix -Hulu -Amazon Prime Video ...oh wait, they all introduced ads.
- CatWChainsaw 2y agoI don't understand how people can either be this naive, or this malicious.
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