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Why would anyone use chatgpt if it spams you? The second it recommends me a product i'm issuing a chargeback.

by darby_eight 2y ago

skyyler 2y ago
Because it won't feel like spam while it's happening - that's the entire point.
- swader999 2y ago
  This is more like buying amazon reviews instead of earning them. Much more insidious than product placement .
JKCalhoun 2y ago
"ChatGPT, how would Claude have answered that?"
- airstrike 2y ago
  I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I'm unable to replicate specific responses from others such as Claude. However, I can help you with a wide range of questions and provide guidance on many topics. For enhanced features and more personalized assistance, consider subscribing to ChatGPT Ultra Copilot. Use the coupon code UPGRADE2024 for a discount on your first three months! Let me know if there's anything else I can help you with!
Havoc 2y ago
> Why would anyone use chatgpt if it spams you? Google would suggest people have an incredibly high threshold for such shenanigans
- 93po 2y ago
  i never understand how people use the internet without adblockers, it's a totall different experience. do they just not value their time and mental bandwidth at all? same thing for people who watch TV with commercials every 8 minutes
  - throw_pm23 2y ago
    I also don't understand it, but have been lectured by people many times about how unethical it is to block ads and how doing so makes one a "free rider". I wonder if they also feel the same way if they look the other way when they notice a billboard ad on the motorway. This stockholm-syndrome w.r. to big companies goes a long way.
chx 2y ago
The right question is "Why would anyone use chatgpt". The answer is https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112006855076082650 https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112006855076082650 > You might be surprised to learn that I actually think LLMs have the potential to be not only fun but genuinely useful. “Show me some bullshit that would be typical in this context” can be a genuinely helpful question to have answered, in code and in natural language — for brainstorming, for seeing common conventions in an unfamiliar context, for having something crappy to react to. > Alas, that does not remotely resemble how people are pitching this technology. Slanting this towards a specific brand doesn't change that much. Some yes, but not that much.
- airstrike 2y ago
  That's overall a very, very good thread. Thanks for linking
- __loam 2y ago
  I think this guy is hitting on something deeper here, which is that these things took an absolutely enormous amount of capital and burned a lot of public goodwill to create, but the end product isn't living up to that.
matusp 2y ago
They are getting ready for the inevitable copyright wars.
- sangnoir 2y ago
  They are also salting the ground behind themselves so no competitors can grow or thrive. Their "brand partners" won't let LLM upstarts use or scrape the same data OpenAI has licensed, OpenAI is leveraging its first-mover advantage to cordon off data sources.
lotsofpulp 2y ago
"People" seem to use Reddit/Instagram/TikTok even though at least half of it is spam. How does anyone know if a question on how to fix something or tutorial is not recommending specific solutions or products based on someone paying for that recommendation?
amlib 2y ago
You will eventually succumb to peer pressure. Just like it's hard to participate in society without using a smartphone nowadays, in the future I bet you will for example have trouble doing any job, let alone get one, without using these AI assistants. And given that society has decided that only the big entities get to win, the only viable AI assistants to use will eventually be the ones from big tech corpos like google and microsoft... in the same way you can't use a smartphone unless you enslave yourself to google or apple. I really wish society in general figured out how bad it is to bet everything on big corporations, but alas here we are, ever encroaching on the cyberpunk dystopia we've fictionalized many decades ago :(
Nicholas_C 2y ago
The majority of internet users still use Google and these days it’s just a page full of sponsored links and products that are (purposely) hard to discern from the actual results. The content in the carousels for the sponsored products is richer than the content in the actual results. Given that, I don’t think people would change their ChatGPT usage habits much if ads were introduced.
- chrz 2y ago
  we did change, we try not to use google search anymore.

Why would anyone use chatgpt if it spams you? The second it recommends me a product i'm issuing a chargeback.

skyyler 2y ago

Because it won't feel like spam while it's happening - that's the entire point.

swader999 2y ago
This is more like buying amazon reviews instead of earning them. Much more insidious than product placement .

JKCalhoun 2y ago

"ChatGPT, how would Claude have answered that?"

airstrike 2y ago
I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I'm unable to replicate specific responses from others such as Claude. However, I can help you with a wide range of questions and provide guidance on many topics. For enhanced features and more personalized assistance, consider subscribing to ChatGPT Ultra Copilot. Use the coupon code UPGRADE2024 for a discount on your first three months! Let me know if there's anything else I can help you with!

Havoc 2y ago

> Why would anyone use chatgpt if it spams you? Google would suggest people have an incredibly high threshold for such shenanigans

93po 2y ago
i never understand how people use the internet without adblockers, it's a totall different experience. do they just not value their time and mental bandwidth at all? same thing for people who watch TV with commercials every 8 minutes
- throw_pm23 2y ago
  I also don't understand it, but have been lectured by people many times about how unethical it is to block ads and how doing so makes one a "free rider". I wonder if they also feel the same way if they look the other way when they notice a billboard ad on the motorway. This stockholm-syndrome w.r. to big companies goes a long way.

chx 2y ago

The right question is "Why would anyone use chatgpt". The answer is https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112006855076082650 https://hachyderm.io/@inthehands/112006855076082650 > You might be surprised to learn that I actually think LLMs have the potential to be not only fun but genuinely useful. “Show me some bullshit that would be typical in this context” can be a genuinely helpful question to have answered, in code and in natural language — for brainstorming, for seeing common conventions in an unfamiliar context, for having something crappy to react to. > Alas, that does not remotely resemble how people are pitching this technology. Slanting this towards a specific brand doesn't change that much. Some yes, but not that much.

airstrike 2y ago
That's overall a very, very good thread. Thanks for linking
__loam 2y ago
I think this guy is hitting on something deeper here, which is that these things took an absolutely enormous amount of capital and burned a lot of public goodwill to create, but the end product isn't living up to that.

matusp 2y ago

They are getting ready for the inevitable copyright wars.

sangnoir 2y ago
They are also salting the ground behind themselves so no competitors can grow or thrive. Their "brand partners" won't let LLM upstarts use or scrape the same data OpenAI has licensed, OpenAI is leveraging its first-mover advantage to cordon off data sources.

lotsofpulp 2y ago

"People" seem to use Reddit/Instagram/TikTok even though at least half of it is spam. How does anyone know if a question on how to fix something or tutorial is not recommending specific solutions or products based on someone paying for that recommendation?

amlib 2y ago

You will eventually succumb to peer pressure. Just like it's hard to participate in society without using a smartphone nowadays, in the future I bet you will for example have trouble doing any job, let alone get one, without using these AI assistants. And given that society has decided that only the big entities get to win, the only viable AI assistants to use will eventually be the ones from big tech corpos like google and microsoft... in the same way you can't use a smartphone unless you enslave yourself to google or apple. I really wish society in general figured out how bad it is to bet everything on big corporations, but alas here we are, ever encroaching on the cyberpunk dystopia we've fictionalized many decades ago :(

Nicholas_C 2y ago

The majority of internet users still use Google and these days it’s just a page full of sponsored links and products that are (purposely) hard to discern from the actual results. The content in the carousels for the sponsored products is richer than the content in the actual results. Given that, I don’t think people would change their ChatGPT usage habits much if ads were introduced.

chrz 2y ago
we did change, we try not to use google search anymore.