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Its in the nature of the beast, the boomer generation, being in the retreat-defeat of retirement, wants things stable, conservative, collapsing inwards at a sna

Its in the nature of the beast, the boomer generation, being in the retreat-defeat of retirement, wants things stable, conservative, collapsing inwards at a snails pace. Your point of view has no party running

moffkalast 2y ago
The thing is, we do need regulation but not the kind that's being proposed, which appears to be more like regulatory capture by OpenAI & friends to enshrine deep learning at scale as something only verified multinationals with NSA backdoors can do and put up even larger barriers for entry for anyone else. What's needed is practically the exact opposite, a set of rules that prevents work automation to be owned by a select few who will then manipulate the resulting techno-feudalist world with impunity because they need no one else. Things are changing too quickly, the fastest they ever have in the history of man even. Some people are probably preparing to enter a college programme right now to learn something that will be fully automated before they even get their degree.
ajmurmann 2y ago
I think it's easier to take arguments more seriously when the statement doesn't generalize across an entire generation.
krapp 2y ago
Everyone but psychopaths wants to live in a stable society, conservatism is apparently a trend among the young, and the boomer generation is all but dead at this point. But go off.
- xboxnolifes 2y ago
  Everyone wants a stable society, but only the naive think you can regulate your way to a truly stable society.
  - krapp 2y ago
    All stable societies are stable due in no small part to regulation in some form or another. I'm guessing by "truly" you mean "perfectly", but of course no such society exists in the real world.
    - xboxnolifes 2y ago
      By truly stable I mean that society changes. You must always have wiggle room. You can't just hammer down every nail the moment it sticks up. Regulates never more fast enough to compensate, so less regulation used to reach a desired outcome the better.
      - krapp 2y ago
        But that's exactly what's happening. AI is likely going to change society at every level, in innumerable ways. It's going to be the foundation of our economy. It's going to publish science. It's going to create art and culture. It's going to make legal and medical decisions. It's going to be the primary means by which humans communicate with each other, and with software. It's going to shape people's subjective reality. Maybe. If it has even half of the impact that people expect it to, it seems like a reasonable thing to regulate.

moffkalast 2y ago

The thing is, we do need regulation but not the kind that's being proposed, which appears to be more like regulatory capture by OpenAI & friends to enshrine deep learning at scale as something only verified multinationals with NSA backdoors can do and put up even larger barriers for entry for anyone else. What's needed is practically the exact opposite, a set of rules that prevents work automation to be owned by a select few who will then manipulate the resulting techno-feudalist world with impunity because they need no one else. Things are changing too quickly, the fastest they ever have in the history of man even. Some people are probably preparing to enter a college programme right now to learn something that will be fully automated before they even get their degree.

ajmurmann 2y ago

I think it's easier to take arguments more seriously when the statement doesn't generalize across an entire generation.

krapp 2y ago

Everyone but psychopaths wants to live in a stable society, conservatism is apparently a trend among the young, and the boomer generation is all but dead at this point. But go off.

xboxnolifes 2y ago
Everyone wants a stable society, but only the naive think you can regulate your way to a truly stable society.
- krapp 2y ago
  All stable societies are stable due in no small part to regulation in some form or another. I'm guessing by "truly" you mean "perfectly", but of course no such society exists in the real world.
  - xboxnolifes 2y ago
    By truly stable I mean that society changes. You must always have wiggle room. You can't just hammer down every nail the moment it sticks up. Regulates never more fast enough to compensate, so less regulation used to reach a desired outcome the better.
    - krapp 2y ago
      But that's exactly what's happening. AI is likely going to change society at every level, in innumerable ways. It's going to be the foundation of our economy. It's going to publish science. It's going to create art and culture. It's going to make legal and medical decisions. It's going to be the primary means by which humans communicate with each other, and with software. It's going to shape people's subjective reality. Maybe. If it has even half of the impact that people expect it to, it seems like a reasonable thing to regulate.