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The bit that surprises the fuck out of me is that they're buying stuff in from China. I've never seen that - ever! Where else are they going to get the chips i
by ktizo 14y ago
The bit that surprises the fuck out of me is that they're buying stuff in from China. I've never seen that - ever!
Where else are they going to get the chips in the quantities required since the US outsourced most of its commercial silicon foundries? Of the few remaining in the US, the largest is wholly owned by the Taiwanese company TSMC. Post-industrial economics is idiotic, and this is one of the major examples of why.
- crusso 14y ago> Post-industrial economics is idiotic, and this is one of the major examples of why. You say that like the US Military (among other US and non-US government victims) doesn't have the ability to dictate sourcing of parts to the point of driving the growth of domestic foundries. This looks more like poor decision making, not a fact of "post-industrial economics".
- ktizo 14y agoThe US military might, but they are not in charge, and the military in general hasn't been in charge ever since the city machine subsumed the war machine. [edit] Wouldn't claiming that post-industrial economics is not the problem, by suggesting a course of military funded industrial economics as the solution, not be agreeing with the point that post-industrial economics is the problem, even while claiming otherwise?
- valgaze 14y agoSenate Armed Services Report: http://armed-services.senate.gov/Publications/Counterfeit%20Electronic%20Parts.pdf http://armed-services.senate.gov/Publications/Counterfeit%20...
- krschultz 14y agoYou can get anything made in the US, it just may cost an egregious amount. The military will do it without batting an eye. We (government contractor) pay a bunch extra to buy tools made in the US - even if they aren't normally manufactured here - just to satisfy the buy US provisions. Typically what happens is that a subcontractor says it is US made, and then outsources to a foreign country and pockets the difference. Obviously there is money to be made there. However, that is defrauding the government and those subcontractors can/will/do go to federal prison.
- Symmetry 14y agoCommercial silicon foundaries, yes, but Intel, IBM, TI, National, etc all still have their own fabs in the US. Also, isn't Global Foundaries building a new fab in New York right now?