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> The software quality in this space seems really low. Why is this surprising? No one is willing to spend any money on it. A developer can make $400K+ at a F

by bsder 2y ago

> The software quality in this space seems really low. Why is this surprising? No one is willing to spend any money on it. A developer can make $400K+ at a FAANG and work remotely. Or they can work on-site for a quarter that salary in a medical enterprise company. FAANGs may suck at hiring good developers, but good developers are excellent at leaving shitty companies. Want better experiences on this stuff? Start paying embedded developers non-crap amounts of money.

thejohnconway 2y ago
People working in their spare time make better apps than these. I don't think you need great developers, just ones that follow specs and use native development tools would probably do. In any case, I was responding to the notion that the FDA was quality-controlling these things. They aren't doing a very good job.
- bsder 2y ago
  > People working in their spare time make better apps than these. So? If you want better software, pay for it. This infects all embedded development--not just medical. Everybody refuses to pay people what they are worth and then wonders why all their software sucks. > In any case, I was responding to the notion that the FDA was quality-controlling these things. They aren't doing a very good job. The FDA doesn't exist to ensure something is "good". It exists to ensure that something "does what it says" and "doesn't actively do harm". That's all. If you want something to be "good", you will somehow have to ensure that there is pressure or money to incentivize such behavior.
olliej 2y ago
What faang allows remote work? What faang has average devs making 400k? (Also it remains weird to me that Netflix is considered a tech company) The reality is companies like this often use minimum cost contract companies to develop the software rather than actually employing developers directly. They seeing software engineers (or any non managerial position) as purely an expense not the source of value in their products so you only get penny pinching on development and QA.

by bsder 2y ago

thejohnconway 2y ago

People working in their spare time make better apps than these. I don't think you need great developers, just ones that follow specs and use native development tools would probably do. In any case, I was responding to the notion that the FDA was quality-controlling these things. They aren't doing a very good job.

bsder 2y ago
> People working in their spare time make better apps than these. So? If you want better software, pay for it. This infects all embedded development--not just medical. Everybody refuses to pay people what they are worth and then wonders why all their software sucks. > In any case, I was responding to the notion that the FDA was quality-controlling these things. They aren't doing a very good job. The FDA doesn't exist to ensure something is "good". It exists to ensure that something "does what it says" and "doesn't actively do harm". That's all. If you want something to be "good", you will somehow have to ensure that there is pressure or money to incentivize such behavior.

olliej 2y ago

What faang allows remote work? What faang has average devs making 400k? (Also it remains weird to me that Netflix is considered a tech company) The reality is companies like this often use minimum cost contract companies to develop the software rather than actually employing developers directly. They seeing software engineers (or any non managerial position) as purely an expense not the source of value in their products so you only get penny pinching on development and QA.