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What do you mean making a promotion packet? Story, English is not my first language.

by drukenemo 2y ago

vundercind 2y ago
English is my first language and I don’t know what that means, either.
- foolswisdom 2y ago
  It refers to a document (or documents?) making the case why someone (themselves) should be promoted.
bravetraveler 2y ago
No need to apologize, it is a completely strange concept and I'm rushed! Some places have existing employees interview for the job they want. They do this by making a 'packet'; a collection of documents proving things like business impact. It's often put in front of a group of people with that job for review and they decide. Normally, management, your peers, or the company as a whole are aware of your performance. They should be doing a lot of this for you, in my opinion. It basically demands you do the job you want, before you have it. Some see this as fair, and I could agree, but not after 5+ years. I see it as a way to trick newcomers into overextending themselves.
- drukenemo 2y ago
  Thanks for the explanation, all more clear now!
- felsokning 2y ago
  > Normally, management, your peers, or the company as a whole are aware of your performance. They should be doing a lot of this for you, in my opinion. In company's with forced attrition rates, it becomes a hell of a popularity contest. When Kevin Turner (former Wal-Mart exec) headed CSS (Customer Services and Support) at M$FT, it was a shit show and a half - creating something like a mandatory 5% attrition rate per year. Nothing boosts morale better than people vying to NOT be the person let go that year. /s
  - bravetraveler 2y ago
    Hah, true enough/fair. Even in a business where it's routine to rest/vest, no 'crabs in a bucket' mentality required, these contests seem likely to appear. One could simply exist/accrue an empire, yet... that's not enough. I suppose it's boredom. Many reasons why we can't have nice things. Agh.

What do you mean making a promotion packet? Story, English is not my first language.

vundercind 2y ago

English is my first language and I don’t know what that means, either.

foolswisdom 2y ago
It refers to a document (or documents?) making the case why someone (themselves) should be promoted.

bravetraveler 2y ago

No need to apologize, it is a completely strange concept and I'm rushed! Some places have existing employees interview for the job they want. They do this by making a 'packet'; a collection of documents proving things like business impact. It's often put in front of a group of people with that job for review and they decide. Normally, management, your peers, or the company as a whole are aware of your performance. They should be doing a lot of this for you, in my opinion. It basically demands you do the job you want, before you have it. Some see this as fair, and I could agree, but not after 5+ years. I see it as a way to trick newcomers into overextending themselves.

drukenemo 2y ago
Thanks for the explanation, all more clear now!
felsokning 2y ago
> Normally, management, your peers, or the company as a whole are aware of your performance. They should be doing a lot of this for you, in my opinion. In company's with forced attrition rates, it becomes a hell of a popularity contest. When Kevin Turner (former Wal-Mart exec) headed CSS (Customer Services and Support) at M$FT, it was a shit show and a half - creating something like a mandatory 5% attrition rate per year. Nothing boosts morale better than people vying to NOT be the person let go that year. /s
- bravetraveler 2y ago
  Hah, true enough/fair. Even in a business where it's routine to rest/vest, no 'crabs in a bucket' mentality required, these contests seem likely to appear. One could simply exist/accrue an empire, yet... that's not enough. I suppose it's boredom. Many reasons why we can't have nice things. Agh.