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I grew up on a (very) small farm - so I knew where all the meat we ate (and eggs, apple, plums and jam) came from. One of the things I find most disconcerting
by ljf 2y ago
I grew up on a (very) small farm - so I knew where all the meat we ate (and eggs, apple, plums and jam) came from.
One of the things I find most disconcerting as an adult is the disconnect with the food I eat. Even the local 'farmer butcher' - I don't actually know if the meat they sell me is what they say it is.
I buy a lot of deer from a friend of a friend as it feels slightly more known to me - even if I have no idea about what the deer actually ate in it's life.
- chasd00 2y agoIsn’t selling venison against the law?
- snapcaster 2y agoYeah you're on a site called hackernews quit being a dork
- WarOnPrivacy 2y agoexcuse me. where else are we dorks supposed do go? i'm running out of forums where I can post with the replica of my childhood pc rig.
- scoot 2y agoWhich law, where? Please don't assume that everyone here lives in the same city/state/country/continent as you.
- willyt 2y agoDepends which jurisdiction. It’s legal in the UK if you have a license and I think it has to be professionally butchered and labelled at a registered slaughterhouse.
- ljf 2y agoI'm in the UK - but yes he's a registered 'pest controller' - he gets paid by local farmers to keep the invasive deer population low (muncjac and Chinese water deer), and is also licenced to sell the meat. You can get either a whole/half skinned and basically butchered deer from him, or any selected cuts, for £9 a kg - which pretty damn cheap really!
- kvirani 2y agoAnd that right there is a solid moat
- ljf 2y agoHe gets paid twice - what a business!
- nathancahill 2y agoBait shop on one side, sushi shop on the other! As a friend likes to say.
- MandieD 2y agoThat is a fantastic deal for meat you can feel good about! I pay that much for pork at the big organic grocery chain in Germany (ebl) that I can only hope they’re telling the truth about, and far more for the occasional beef steak there.
- Amezarak 2y agoI live in America. I buy half-beef from a farmer down the road. His cows are pastured all the time, grass-fed and grass-finished. It costs me $3.50/lb to do this and that includes dozens of steaks - all cuts and ground beef etc. are the same flat rate. This isn't a special deal either, this is how the guy makes his living, along with some other farm products.
- arrowsmith 2y agoWhat's "half-beef"?
- oaththrowaway 2y agoIt's where you buy half of a cow
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- carlosjobim 2y agoThat should be the last concern of any decent human being. If they outlaw breathing, will you stop? Hunting is something our species has done for over a billion years by this point.
- saintfire 2y agoHunting isn't illegal. Selling hunted meat is. It combats overhunting and poaching.
- IG_Semmelweiss 2y agoSincere question - how does one "overhunt"? If I were to use a huge trawler with a big net to catch hundreds of fish I would call that overfishing. But is that even fishing? Thwres nuance between artisanal and industrial, and both get caught with the same word
- WarOnPrivacy 2y agoOne issue with confusing laws with ethics: We forget that lines are best drawn between doing harm and not.
- mtnGoat 2y agoIt’s simple… harvesting more than the population you are hunting can sustain. A lot of animals outside or deer are regulated through a lottery system, if everyone who wanted to hunt a bear, mountain goat, or cougar did every year, we’d have none.
- wil421 2y agoWe have deer seasons for a reason. Lots of times you can only hunt the male bucks to keep populations in check. People have decimated populations. Look at the Goliath Grouper ban in Florida and how the species has recovered.
- sandworm101 2y ago>> Hunting is something our species has done for over a billion years by this point. Sustenance hunting yes, but the rules about selling wild meat are to prevent market hunting. There are more humans by weight than any other land animal. If the general population started eating hunted meat, any wild population would be wiped out. So we have careful rules to ensure hunters do not hunt simply to sell the meat.
- valicord 2y agoI'd be more concerned about prions in this case.
- cogman10 2y agoI grew up similarly and it's part of the reason I've cut back on my meat. Shoving 100 cattle into a 1 acre feed lot for their entire lives is unfortunately how a lot of beef is produced. They spend their lives covered in shit, sleeping in shit, and trapped with no where to roam. And instead of addressing this problem, my state (Idaho) made it illegal to take photos of the issue. [1] [1] https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch70/sect18-7042/ https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t...
- WarOnPrivacy 2y ago> instead of addressing this problem, my state (Idaho) made it illegal to take photos of the issue. This kind of corp-captured government is one more reason I'm certain we're in the 1910s again. I'm finding it easier to count the exceptions to that. (they had appropriate housing, we have fewer labor-related deaths). source: am an annoying genealogist
- rmbyrro 2y agowow, one year in jail just for trespassing or taking a photo and doing absolutely no damage. I wonder how much it costs to buy a legislature house. Can't we crowfund buying it to make "modern" farming illegal?
- toolz 2y agoI personally empathize more with the concerns of poor humans than I do mistreated animals and increasing food costs seems likely to increase their pain. I'll gladly wait for technology to improve the lives of animals, but I think it's important our legislation focuses entirely on improving the life of people, exclusively.
- vlovich123 2y agoEnforcing ignorance is the answer? > but I think it's important our legislation focuses entirely on improving the life of people, exclusively What about the activists who are motivated by a genuine belief that this is wrong and believe it's their life's work to raise awareness of the issue? Throwing them in jail isn't improving their lives - what framework are you using to pick losers & winners of the people you help vs hurt?