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Sony Wearable Thermal Device
- getwiththeprog 2y agoI want these built in to my shoes.
- miah_ 2y agoThere are heated boots that use Milwaukee batteries, you can also get jackets. Don't know when they'll get on the Peltier/TEC train though.
- salad-tycoon 2y ago1500 Hong Kong bucks = ~200 US dollaridoos. In Japan they have tight fitting plastic shells with fans that pump air in to jacket and expels through ends of the jacket. 1 I imagine this is much more efficient than resistive heating clothing and allows for cooling but what about the front? 1 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/25/fan-jacket-japan-innovation-keeps-workers-cool-in-heat https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/25/fan-jacket-jap...
- rjh29 2y agoI bought something that goes around the neck. I wonder if Sony's design is more efficient https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%80%90%E6%96%B0%E7%99%BB%E5%A0%B4COOLIFY-2S%E3%83%BB%E5%85%A8%E4%B8%96%E7%95%8C%E6%B3%A8%E7%9B%AE%E3%80%91TORRAS-%E3%83%8D%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC-%E3%80%902023%E3%83%BB%E6%9C%80%E9%95%B7%E6%8C%81%E7%B6%9A%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%83%86%E3%83%AA%E3%83%BC-%E3%81%AD%E3%81%A3%E3%81%8F%E3%81%8F%E3%83%BC%E3%82%89%E3%83%BC/dp/B0BWD64LPT/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?crid=I6GL62LLT1QC&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.mUVbjHGkpkUZ21lZ_Y2hwgM9wLRrlY7YS0XaV057DjAiWrse_hzmTyfBmxamt8b1cubXP-TWN3yBhOxOHE1R3EepOHUKwn0FGFUDArqdUqhgHnksB_kB5tsHjq8pI22puUD76_rIrfYN_9FbDn43U3rXx8GpaeEhkvS3k5hIwLeZkM3p6LWCsOe6IJZ4VnejRMLcZlSyGswHS4gDP5EOqg.Ulj4qH6msxcaem4eWG3NNeId6fCe7mQMzBeriqKrTAc&dib_tag=se&keywords=torras+%E3%83%8D%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E3%82%AF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A9%E3%83%BC&qid=1715260072&sprefix=torras%2Caps%2C169&sr=8-2-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRm&psc=1 https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%80%90%E6%96%B0%E7%99%BB%E5%A0%B...
- bamboozled 2y agoA whole new market of products opening up around "climate crisis", nice.
- pixelpoet 2y agoDune style Stillsuit is the endgame here I guess :)
- teleforce 2y agoYep, hopefully soon this cooler will come with water recycling capabilities including from perspiration. Interestingly, this thermal device come with the environment temperature sensor or thermometer something that a USD2K worth smartphone do not include built-in. Just wondering does it also utilize heat pump technology for its cooling and heating function?
- Rinzler89 2y agoNot fucking up the planet instead is just not as profitable unfortunately. Consumerist capitalism revolves around making profit from fixing the problems that consumerist capitalism has created in the first place from making profit. Nice.
- azinman2 2y agoDo communist countries not pollute or have industry?
- Rinzler89 2y agoHow is moving the goalposts with a whataboutism relevant to my point? Where did I say communism causes no pollution?
- azinman2 2y agoWhat are the goal posts? You suggested capitalism is responsible for messing up the planet. So thus I ask if communist countries also aren’t responsible, or if that’s somehow distinctly capitalist countries only who pollute? Seems like a logical and reasonable question to me.
- pixelpoet 2y agoAnyone else with hyperhidrosis having thoughts about buying one? Never seen one of these before, and I'm sure people would gawk and think it's weird, but after so many years of suffering I don't think I give a shit.
- causi 2y agoThoughts, but also concerns. I'd certainly try out a demo, but I think a peltier cooler that size wouldn't make much of a dent when I'm in "hot mode".
- TYPE_FASTER 2y agoIt's been amazing to me how much it helps to use a cooling towel around my neck.
- EricRiese 2y agoThe use case that jumps out at me is people that have to wear heavy protective clothing outside in hot weather. Like motorcycle gear.
- CodinM 2y agoI tend to be a bit overweight and also always hot, but I'd instantly get one for motorcycle gear.
- hx8 2y agoI wouldn't wear this over my current hot weather motorcycle gear. I rarely ride over 102F/38C so maybe those in hotter conditions will feel differently. * Putting on motorcycle gear already takes a significant amount of time, I am always looking for ways to spend less time putting on gear not more time. * While on a motorcycle you have excellent access to wind, and good summer gear will use that to its full advantage. * This doesn't cover the parts of the body that gain the most heat in the summer. The head inside the helmet and the knees near the engine are the hottest locations. * I have bad luck using items not designed for motorcycle riding while riding a motorcycle. Even items designed for riding a motorcycle such as boots can show significant wear quickly. It's a special use case with high forces.
- langsoul-com 2y agoWonder how these compare to other cooling neck metals. They cost around 3-4k hk for the good style. Sony went for a different route, instead of side neck cooling, they did the back.
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- gnatman 2y agoDoes anyone remember the "Personal Cooling System" sold in the Sharper Image catalogue in the late 90s / early 00s?
- rocky_raccoon 2y agoI would love to find one of these that does the opposite -- provides heating instead of cooling. ...also known as... clothes, I guess?
- qup 2y agoThis one does heating.
- ytjohn 2y agoThere's actually quite a collection of heated clothing, which is much easier to make. Milwaukee, Dewalt (and probably all the big power tool makers) make heated jackets and vests.
- hackeraccount 2y agoInsulation plus the power of endothermy can do a lot.
- fragmede 2y agoyeah. the worst thing about moving from Boston to California wasn't the first winter, but the second one, where my body had forgotten how to deal with mild cold.
- ajolly 2y agoThis does both heating and cooling.
- blowfish721 2y agoReminds me of these that instead of actually heat or cool you just make you feel warmer or colder. https://embrlabs.com/ https://embrlabs.com/
- noisy_boy 2y agoI am genuinely curious about how effective these are. If I'm sweating all over my body, will putting this on my upper back help the rest of the body to cool down? Sony must have done their research so what is the principal behind this approach?
- Kbelicius 2y agoThe principle is dead simple. Blood circulates through body.
- pmontra 2y agoThe back of the neck and the wrists are the points where you get a bigger cool down effect if you put them under a cold water stream in summer. I think every runner or cyclist know that. A good amount of blood circulates close to the skin there so it's easy to cool. Blood circulation does the rest of the job.
- kspyy 2y agoI bought one of these in 2018 on ebay for my dad, and had it shipped from japan. Living in the US I had to jump through the hoop of making a fake japanese icloud account just to be able to access the app on the app store, which is how you control the device. Ultimately it seemed like a really cool device but at least at the time wasn't very effective or practical for cooling down, at least in my and his experience. This was mostly just being outside, doing yard work etc in the hot summer. I think buying one of the <$50 portable neck coolers on amazon are probably just as if not more effective
- edent 2y agoOr, for about twenty quid, you can get a semiconductor cooler https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2021/07/gadget-review-usb-c-powered-semiconductor-neck-cooler/ https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2021/07/gadget-review-usb-c-powered... I have one. Rather effective at chilling my blood. No app needed.
- Gys 2y agoNo battery, so I assume it is rather power hungry? The Sony solution seems much more appropriate for walking around freely (and no noise). Neither solution really captivates me, even though I am currently in Asia with a heatwave. But then again I do not wear suits nor have professional meetings in person.
- tjoff 2y agoMaybe missed it but broken aliexpress link and no name?
- napolux 2y agoon a different note... is there a way for me in the EU to buy all this stuff sony and other vendors sell in asia? possibly without customs (but i'm available to pay for it)
- ajolly 2y agoeBay. But it looks like it's coming to the UK. https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/wearable-technology/sony-reon-pocket-5-review https://www.expertreviews.co.uk/wearable-technology/sony-reo...
- librasteve 2y agohandy device to tuck under the ‘nads
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- tjoff 2y agoI'd really love something like this. I really suffer if I get too hot, but I just can't imagine these being effective enough to make a difference. Maybe the fact that you can feel something coldish on your skin is good placebo though.
- ck2 2y agothere are a few wrist devices like that https://dhamasport.com/product/cool-wristband/ https://dhamasport.com/product/cool-wristband/ https://embrlabs.com/products/embr-wave-2 https://embrlabs.com/products/embr-wave-2 I was looking at them to deal with Raynauds Disease but the Sony device might be even better.
- ajolly 2y agoI have both of those, The work okay for cooling but they're not super powerful or anything. I like this new one that it also heats you up.
- jimbobthrowawy 2y agoI wonder if this is too small to be worth fitting a compressor into, or if the gains over a peltier aren't enough to consider it. Regardless, I look forward to this or another device like it appearing on the techmoan channel in the coming months.
- anarticle 2y agoFor context, the reason this exists is air con in offices in Japan are set high something like 27/28C. Part of it is history, the Cool Biz campaign set the idea of 28C being the "right" temp for offices: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_Biz_campaign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_Biz_campaign