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Congrats to OpenAI (and the rest of the LLM bros) for creating negative incentives for sharing knowledge.
by SrslyJosh 2y ago
Congrats to OpenAI (and the rest of the LLM bros) for creating negative incentives for sharing knowledge.
- bcrosby95 2y agoML gives a whole new meaning to "training your replacements".
- fakedang 2y agoComing to think of it, recent ML is just a scaled up version of Infosys, Wipro, etc. Shit quality answers for enterprises, now accessible for the masses.
- atleastoptimal 2y agoWhat are the negative incentives? How would an LLM improving in capabilities harm those who shared their knowledge for free online at some point in the past?
- dumbo-octopus 2y agoMy experience is worth less if an AI can summon it at-will. It hasn't necessarily come down to this yet in the software industry, but in others (like animation), folks who were previously responsible for generating concept art have found themselves without jobs as management can get "good enough" results from a much cheaper medium (that was, at least en-masse, trained on their "prior art"). I don't personally have a well formed opinion one way or another on this, but to dismiss the existence of a issue at all is logically lacking.
- kragen 2y agothe same reasoning would equally justify the claim that your experience is worth less if beginner programmers can summon it at will; if you believe that reasoning you wouldn't have contributed to stackoverflow in the first place. i don't and if you contributed to stackoverflow you didn't either
- zb3 2y agoThe scale might be different here, since prompting AI is much cheaper than hiring a begginer programmer. The previous loss could for instance be compensated by attribution.
- lukan 2y agoI do not understand, how are they "creating negative incentives for sharing knowledge"? If I posted on SO before in the hope that others find it useful (and not for the karma) - and now it might help others not directly through the site, but with further steps through a llm, where is the problem? Knowledge was shared.
- AdamH12113 2y agoPart of the benefit for the answerer is the experience of interacting with the questioner, receiving upvotes and comments, having answers accepted, and having your name on an answer that's helped people. You get credit for answering questions on Stack Exchange sites. It's not much -- it's not supposed to be -- it's rarely of material consequence -- but it matters. I still get upvotes on some of my old EE.SE answers when my written work helps someone enough for them to give notice. It's a little reminder that I've done something useful in my life. Having my work ingested into ChatGPT takes the me out of it. It turns me into, essentially, unpaid contract labor for OpenAI. They get all the credit, and I get forgotten. Why would I be okay with that? If you want to write free code for OpenAI to improve ChatGPT, you're welcome to do so. Cut out the middlemen and send it to them directly. But please leave me and my work out of it.
- lukan 2y ago"Having my work ingested into ChatGPT takes the me out of it. It turns me into, essentially, unpaid contract labor for OpenAI. They get all the credit, and I get forgotten. Why would I be okay with that?" So you are ok with unpaid contract labor in exchange for virtual points. But if you don't get virtual points as appreciation, no one should benefit. That is ok, but then sharing knowledge is not your main, but secondary goal. Your main goal is the recognition. But if you delete your comments, you won't get anything at all anymore. If they remain, real humans will still benefit directly or indirectly. And why should I write exclusicly for openAI? I share my knowledge for anyone. If SO would restrict public access and favour OpenAI - that would be the moment I would want to delete everything. But at the moment LLMs just get also official access, but they had access to SO before, just in a grey legal area. So nothing really changes.
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