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I feel like I’m the right audience for this - a not very good climber with unusual distribution of limbs. But I’m not interested - part of the fun in climbing

I feel like I’m the right audience for this - a not very good climber with unusual distribution of limbs. But I’m not interested - part of the fun in climbing is on sight climbs and solving problems yourself.

31337Logic 2y ago
Thank you for posting this. :-)
johnfn 2y ago
Man, where is the hacking spirit? OP posts a very cool, impressive hack and all everyone can talk about in the comments is how it actually isn't interesting to them.
- swores 2y ago
  It's great if someone wants to use the "hacking spirit" to help themself climb, it doesn't obligate everyone else to want to use the same technique; and frankly it's (slightly) more interesting hearing people say why they would or wouldn't use it than to have a bunch of comments just saying "awesome that you're doing this" and ignoring whether they'd find it interesting themselves or not.
  - SOLAR_FIELDS 2y ago
    I would say (opinion) that it’s vastly more interesting to hear whether other people would use Thing I Built. I can nerd snipe myself all day on projects. By that I mean I can easily endlessly entertain myself building things, both useless and useful. Whether they are interesting AND useful for other people is quite a large driver for me both for personal and business projects
- jajko 2y ago
  If somebody solves the 'hacking' part for you, a lot of fun disappears. Yes they probably had tons of fun, but you lose some of it. Figuring a route for the first time is by far the most rewarding part of climbing (although I love all of it). Same with kids - if they grok something on their own, what a reaction and reward compared to being told how to do it.
- anvil-on-my-toe 2y ago
  It's cool as an academic exercise, but there are things in life where the struggle is kind of the point. The messy learning process, asking other humans for help, is better for your growth.
- rideontime 2y ago
  In 2024, the "hacking spirit" aligns well with not using an app to do everything.
perfect_wave 2y ago
Came here hoping to see something like this. Glad to see it’s the top comment. Part of the beauty of climbing is solving a puzzle and figuring things out. Edit: Unsurprised to see the demo on a gym route instead of actual rock.
- smandava 2y ago
  Will post more videos on outdoor rocks soon! I just chose that video for the demo because it was easy to explain the route
- kyawzazaw 2y ago
  gym route is also important and heavily used
carabiner 2y ago
If you ever Moonboard, you'll see the app gives easy access to beta videos from Instagram. That's because many people want help on really hard problems. OP app is like those videos. If you never feel like you need help from watching someone else climb, then I think you are not trying hard enough problems.
cloudripper 2y ago
As an experienced, very poor climber myself, I enjoy the process of problem solving. However, knowing many experienced, very good climbers - studying beta is how many of them excel. As an aside, the term beta also came from the use of beta tapes by climbers to record themselves climbing so they could study the minutiae of their movement to find improvements. In higher levels of bouldering especially, a nuanced and firm understanding of beta is everything - so careful analysis of your movement can help identify areas of improvement. I believe this is consistent with most elite (or elite-aspiring) athletes from many sports. While I personally enjoy the problem-solving aspect of climbing (when I rarely do get out), I absolutely see the value in this project (and other climbing apps that thrive on beta sharing)
- buzzwordninja 2y ago
  To clarify and define the time period: beta as in Beta Max video cassette tapes.

31337Logic 2y ago

Thank you for posting this. :-)

johnfn 2y ago

Man, where is the hacking spirit? OP posts a very cool, impressive hack and all everyone can talk about in the comments is how it actually isn't interesting to them.

swores 2y ago
It's great if someone wants to use the "hacking spirit" to help themself climb, it doesn't obligate everyone else to want to use the same technique; and frankly it's (slightly) more interesting hearing people say why they would or wouldn't use it than to have a bunch of comments just saying "awesome that you're doing this" and ignoring whether they'd find it interesting themselves or not.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 2y ago
  I would say (opinion) that it’s vastly more interesting to hear whether other people would use Thing I Built. I can nerd snipe myself all day on projects. By that I mean I can easily endlessly entertain myself building things, both useless and useful. Whether they are interesting AND useful for other people is quite a large driver for me both for personal and business projects
jajko 2y ago
If somebody solves the 'hacking' part for you, a lot of fun disappears. Yes they probably had tons of fun, but you lose some of it. Figuring a route for the first time is by far the most rewarding part of climbing (although I love all of it). Same with kids - if they grok something on their own, what a reaction and reward compared to being told how to do it.
anvil-on-my-toe 2y ago
It's cool as an academic exercise, but there are things in life where the struggle is kind of the point. The messy learning process, asking other humans for help, is better for your growth.
rideontime 2y ago
In 2024, the "hacking spirit" aligns well with not using an app to do everything.

perfect_wave 2y ago

Came here hoping to see something like this. Glad to see it’s the top comment. Part of the beauty of climbing is solving a puzzle and figuring things out. Edit: Unsurprised to see the demo on a gym route instead of actual rock.

smandava 2y ago
Will post more videos on outdoor rocks soon! I just chose that video for the demo because it was easy to explain the route
kyawzazaw 2y ago
gym route is also important and heavily used

carabiner 2y ago

If you ever Moonboard, you'll see the app gives easy access to beta videos from Instagram. That's because many people want help on really hard problems. OP app is like those videos. If you never feel like you need help from watching someone else climb, then I think you are not trying hard enough problems.

cloudripper 2y ago

As an experienced, very poor climber myself, I enjoy the process of problem solving. However, knowing many experienced, very good climbers - studying beta is how many of them excel. As an aside, the term beta also came from the use of beta tapes by climbers to record themselves climbing so they could study the minutiae of their movement to find improvements. In higher levels of bouldering especially, a nuanced and firm understanding of beta is everything - so careful analysis of your movement can help identify areas of improvement. I believe this is consistent with most elite (or elite-aspiring) athletes from many sports. While I personally enjoy the problem-solving aspect of climbing (when I rarely do get out), I absolutely see the value in this project (and other climbing apps that thrive on beta sharing)

buzzwordninja 2y ago
To clarify and define the time period: beta as in Beta Max video cassette tapes.