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A Portal Connecting NYC to Dublin Opens in Flatiron Today
- Nihilartikel 3y agoI wonder when we'll have light field capturing and emitting surfaces that would make it look like a real hole between places...
- Aaronstotle 3y agoThis is neat, I hope one day similar structures are placed in cities around the globe, and it helps ease tension that builds so easily online.
- delfinom 3y agoYea...if it's countries with tensions, people will start mooning the portal and worse hahaha
- chgs 3y agoI believe there’s precedent for Americans mooning Austrailia. https://youtu.be/YkcVzNyj5sI?si=XXY3dnm8WPrmmbu0 https://youtu.be/YkcVzNyj5sI?si=XXY3dnm8WPrmmbu0
- Aaronstotle 3y agoAmericans & Brits making fun of each other through a portal would be pretty neat haha
- anyfoo 3y agoWell, I much prefer people mooning each other, or, similarly, the actual happenstance of countries voting for and against each other in the Eurovision Song Contest for reasons other than musical merit, to armed conflict.
- jareklupinski 3y ago> countries with tensions, people will start mooning the portal would make for a beautiful realisation "how petty our differences become, when we realize we all use the same butt"
- janalsncm 3y agoSeriously. Usually the only way we can see images of other places is through media, which may be biased. (Even if the stories are true, the stories which are chosen may not be representative.) This is a really cool opportunity to cut through all of that and just show everyday people. It would also be really cool if there was some kind of live translation that let people talk to each other in their native languages.
- hderms 3y agois Dublin becoming more of a cultural center since Brexit?
- a_paddy 3y agoBrexit? The British left Dublin 102 years ago.
- chgs 3y agoAs in since the U.K. shot itself in the foot more effort is being spent on an English speaking country in Europe at the expense of an English speaking country in its own.
- wk_end 3y agoEhhh I wouldn’t think it’d make a significant difference on its own. London is what it is (was what it was?) because of centuries of English imperial hegemony, not just because it’s English-speaking. Berliners speak the global lingua franca virtually just as well and - with no slight intended to the Irish - their city is a much more natural fit as the new European cosmopolitan cultural Mecca. Dublin’s rising global prominence probably has more to do with Ireland’s rather business-friendly taxation policies.
- initramfs 3y agoWhat we really need is to have people on both sides of the pond dress up as green men from outer space and wave to each other with three webbed digits.
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- IncreasePosts 3y agoI wonder what the latency is going to be on this. It needs to be at least 1/30th of a second round trip but I suspect the actual latency is going to be more like 1s+
- crazygringo 3y agoI don't know why it would be any different from a Zoom call. In reality it's probably even faster since neither side is dealing with Wi-Fi.
- bagels 3y agoIt doesn't say what technology is used, does it? Could be using wifi, or cell networks.
- pclmulqdq 3y agoWired, using the subsea fiber cables, your still stuck at a 60 ms RTT minimum from NYC to Dublin. Add in video transcoding time and a more realistic estimate of the networks on either side, and you're looking at latency closer to 200-400 ms. WiFi over this distance actually isn't a significant contributor to latency.
- bagels 3y agoWhere does it say it's using a wired connection? Agree that the latency from the distance is going to be a big factor.
- oceanplexian 3y agoActually transcoding can be done far below that with consumer hardware. I’m doing Quicksync accelerated transcoding right now for Moonlight and encoding/decoding latency is only a few ms. And Wifi is, by far the greatest source of latency. In fact I can get data to a datacenter a few hundred km away over a fiber connection faster than Wifi across the room (<5ms vs 10-20ms)
- crazygringo 3y agoWhy are none of the photos actually of Flatiron? (I don't know Dublin well enough to tell if any of them are of the Dublin side.)
- NoboruWataya 3y ago> (I don't know Dublin well enough to tell if any of them are of the Dublin side.) Doesn't look like it.
- lelandfe 3y agohttps://old.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1cn9cxl/portal_to_dublin_is_open/ https://old.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/1cn9cxl/portal_to_dubl...
- crazygringo 3y agoThank you! Very cool, and good to see exactly where it's located.
- dylan604 3y ago"A sculpture known as The Portal is heading to NYC’s Flatiron neighborhood" Seems you might be thinking of a specific building instead
- anyfoo 3y agoPresumably because they are of a previous location of the art’s installation. The article is written in future tense, so it stands to reason that there are no (interesting) pictures of the new installation yet.
- futureshock 3y agoIt’s because the photos are of an existing Portal installation in Lublin, Poland and Vilnius, Lithuania. Lublin is my city and this thing has been running for a few years now. Everyone loves waving at it and seeing if anyone on the other side waves back. It’s quite silly but also rather touching.
- _dain_ 3y agothere are portals ...
- walterbell 3y agoNeeds gesture recognition to trigger Stargate portal easter egg, https://youtube.com/watch?v=0WvN3Ji-xIQ https://youtube.com/watch?v=0WvN3Ji-xIQ Locations: https://www.portals.org/portals https://www.portals.org/portals
- ElijahLynn 3y agoDoes it do audio too? I wonder what the resolution and frame rate is too? Article was lacking technical detail.
- futureshock 3y agoWe have one in Lublin, PL for the past several years. I’m not sure if ours will be moved or if they are building a new pair. There’s no audio. Webcam quality isn’t a pretty bad, maybe 720p with lots of compression artifacts. It’s not a 4k screen, reminds me of digital signage used for highway billboards. It’s still entertaining but every time I see it I long for 8k and a gigabit uplink.
- bagels 3y agoIs Facebook going to complain about trademarks?
- chahex 3y agoI hope this helps manifest a real portal but yeah JetBlue may disagree (i.e. unmanifest)
- candiddevmike 3y agoThat was an ad in the beginning, right?
- benatkin 3y agoSo that JetBlue can sell more credit cards? https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/airlines-banks-mileage-programs/675374/ https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/airlines-b...
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- anyfoo 3y agoWell, yes, but you didn’t, did you. Come on, it does not take long consideration to appreciate how this can be interesting, even if the technical requirements aren’t interesting in themselves.
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- JumpCrisscross 3y agoReminds me of the Shared Studios containers, except those have audio [1]. Funnily enough, that also started as a project called Portal (between New York and Tehran) [2]. [1] https://www.sharedstudios.com/ https://www.sharedstudios.com/ [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portals_(initiative) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portals_(initiative)
- janalsncm 3y agoSuper cool! I would love to see a ring of these leading to all different countries. Really interesting way to connect countries together.
- anyfoo 3y agoThat would be fun. How do you imagine the “ring”? A huge part of the appeal is that both sides can see each other.
- vundercind 3y agoYou could ask someone in Dublin to pass on a message, walk over to the portal coming from the “other side”, and maybe receive your message back from someone in Japan or something :-)
- boopmaster 3y agoNot the op, but I could imagine a series of portals in a circle formation at each site; maybe like 12 or 13 simulcast connections would be insane.
- janalsncm 3y agoMy thought was a circle/semicircle with portals on the outside angled such that other portals are not in the backgrounds of the video.
- notnaut 3y agoI walk by this location regularly. VERY open to goofy ideas and harmless shenanigans.
- mikeocool 3y agoAn artist set something similar up between NYC and London in 2008 — was always fun to walk by. https://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/arts/design/21tele.html https://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/21/arts/design/21tele.html
- tootie 3y agoThat's exactly what I thought of. It's cool but it's been done. The telectroscope had a fun story too.
- acomjean 3y agoI remember that one too. Fulton st landing. It had a steam punky kind of look. https://www.artichoke.uk.com/project/the-telectroscope/ https://www.artichoke.uk.com/project/the-telectroscope/
- extheat 3y agoCool stuff. It's kind of interesting because the time zones are several hours off, so I wonder how well it works at night. From the renders I see the quality doesn't seem that great (for better or worse), still quite fascinating to look through I'm sure.
- dan-g 3y agoAwesome! There’s a really cool company in Japan doing something similar for enterprise: https://tonari.no/en https://tonari.no/en
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- rqtwteye 3y agoThis is great. We should have many more of these. I am always surprised how different cities in other countries are when you travel there vs. what you see in the media. I really think this can bring people together.
- xracy 3y agoI wonder how long it will be before we realize we can't have nice things. In the meantime, this seems cool!
- esafak 3y agoWith support from the Simons Foundation: https://www.simonsfoundation.org/2024/05/08/announcing-portal-connecting-new-york-and-dublin/ https://www.simonsfoundation.org/2024/05/08/announcing-porta...
- cobertos 3y agoSecretNYC (and all their secret sub brands, one per major city) always sussed me out a bit. They seem to just be blogs about events, but they also host their own, very templated events, like the Van Gogh immersive exhibits and the Candlelight Concerts (among others). They do this in every city and advertise the fuck out of them, which makes them seem more hollow when you see the scale of their enterprise from a 300ft view...