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Can we get those operators to provide feedback here? Are the opposing enemy team allowed to attempt to disable them? Unpopular hot take, I've been following t

Can we get those operators to provide feedback here? Are the opposing enemy team allowed to attempt to disable them? Unpopular hot take, I've been following the progression or lack there of with robot dogs and honestly I am not impressed. I think a real dog or a high speed drone tank could disable these things. Should they evolve to the agility of the fictional character AMEE [1] they might be a threat but I have yet to see anything close to her. In my opinion these are too slow, wibbly wobbly, noisy, unidirectional. Too many of the weaknesses of a real dog have been recreated. This is a robot and they have the opportunity to engineer away all of those vulnerabilities. I would be more afraid of an actual dog trained to kill. I have a personal request. Two of these dogs armed with owie-owie-hurt-hurt paintball guns verses two riot cops armed only with the riot-cuffs heavy duty tie wraps. Give the cops no instruction other than to disable the robots. [1] - https://youtu.be/KTcOOzD-JQs?&t=28 https://youtu.be/KTcOOzD-JQs?&t=28

jareklupinski 2y ago
> Two of these dogs armed with owie-owie-hurt-hurt paintball guns verses two riot cops the scary part isn't putting two robots against two guys; it's putting two hundred robots against those two guys you don't have to be tactical (or even accurate) when you can overwhelm (zerg rush)
- LinuxBender 2y ago
  it's putting two hundred robots against those two guys That is the opposite I would expect financially funding a war. I would expect one robot to be able to decimate 100 to 1000 humans in short order and act as a 10x landmine if pinned down. I do not believe there would ever be a zerg rush of robot dogs as they can not rush. Something like a scaled down rip-saw tank that can autonomously fire simultaneously in 10+ directions perhaps if you want to surprise and rush a squad. Something like the rip-saw could also extract a squad of friendlies if not scaled down and/or patrol a very large area.
2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
They aren't a threat because they aren't on par with fictional sci-fi special-effects robots yet? They're still armed with guns. Even a small gun is a threat. I don't understand your point.
- LinuxBender 2y ago
  They move too slow. You are a marine and I trust that you could eliminate them. I expect a robot in 2024 to be somewhat closer to the science fiction of 15+ years ago minus the shiny body and non redundant sensor. I expect them to decimate the field and map all the terrain that satellites will miss so that you have a higher chance of going home without a folded flag.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
    > I expect a robot in 2024 to be somewhat closer to the science fiction of 15+ years ago Sounds like an assumption on your part. Regardless, I think you're missing the point entirely. Marines eliminate humans too but that doesn't mean humans aren't a threat. It's also a test, I'd expect them to become more polished before being fielded. These also aren't your average guys testing them either (MARSOC). Special forces looking for an edge.
maxglute 2y ago
> robot dogs and honestly I am not impressed Need to contextualize robot dogs like current disposable drones. When industrial production commodifies building them in 100,000s, and they can be thrown in urban battle space purely for attrition where ROR becomes positive if they turn 1 human combatant into a casualty. Get sensors, onboard processing cheap enough and they're autonomous sentries / mines / suicide bombers that strategically dot the battlefield. Park/camp in doorways on low energy mode for area denial. Nothing shows up, have them find a nice electric conduit to self destruct. Look at PRC Zhuhai defense expo last few years, tons of very chintzy dogs with off the shelf weapons strapped to them. Considering DJI sells large farmn drones for $8000 with AESA radar, cheap robodogs can probably be made for less. An advanced Excaliber shell cost 100k.

jareklupinski 2y ago

> Two of these dogs armed with owie-owie-hurt-hurt paintball guns verses two riot cops the scary part isn't putting two robots against two guys; it's putting two hundred robots against those two guys you don't have to be tactical (or even accurate) when you can overwhelm (zerg rush)

LinuxBender 2y ago
it's putting two hundred robots against those two guys That is the opposite I would expect financially funding a war. I would expect one robot to be able to decimate 100 to 1000 humans in short order and act as a 10x landmine if pinned down. I do not believe there would ever be a zerg rush of robot dogs as they can not rush. Something like a scaled down rip-saw tank that can autonomously fire simultaneously in 10+ directions perhaps if you want to surprise and rush a squad. Something like the rip-saw could also extract a squad of friendlies if not scaled down and/or patrol a very large area.

2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago

They aren't a threat because they aren't on par with fictional sci-fi special-effects robots yet? They're still armed with guns. Even a small gun is a threat. I don't understand your point.

LinuxBender 2y ago
They move too slow. You are a marine and I trust that you could eliminate them. I expect a robot in 2024 to be somewhat closer to the science fiction of 15+ years ago minus the shiny body and non redundant sensor. I expect them to decimate the field and map all the terrain that satellites will miss so that you have a higher chance of going home without a folded flag.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 2y ago
  > I expect a robot in 2024 to be somewhat closer to the science fiction of 15+ years ago Sounds like an assumption on your part. Regardless, I think you're missing the point entirely. Marines eliminate humans too but that doesn't mean humans aren't a threat. It's also a test, I'd expect them to become more polished before being fielded. These also aren't your average guys testing them either (MARSOC). Special forces looking for an edge.

maxglute 2y ago

> robot dogs and honestly I am not impressed Need to contextualize robot dogs like current disposable drones. When industrial production commodifies building them in 100,000s, and they can be thrown in urban battle space purely for attrition where ROR becomes positive if they turn 1 human combatant into a casualty. Get sensors, onboard processing cheap enough and they're autonomous sentries / mines / suicide bombers that strategically dot the battlefield. Park/camp in doorways on low energy mode for area denial. Nothing shows up, have them find a nice electric conduit to self destruct. Look at PRC Zhuhai defense expo last few years, tons of very chintzy dogs with off the shelf weapons strapped to them. Considering DJI sells large farmn drones for $8000 with AESA radar, cheap robodogs can probably be made for less. An advanced Excaliber shell cost 100k.