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Frankly it's a fools errand. It's security theater because people tend to be overly sensitive babies or grifters looking for the next bit of drama they can milk
by CooCooCaCha 2y ago
Frankly it's a fools errand. It's security theater because people tend to be overly sensitive babies or grifters looking for the next bit of drama they can milk for views.
- jameshart 2y agoIt’s not security theater. The intention here is not to prevent people from learning how to shoplift. The intention is to prevent the AI output from ‘reflecting badly’ upon OpenAI (by having their tool conspire and implicate them as an accessory in the commission of a crime). If a stranger asked you for advice on how to commit a crime, would you willingly offer it? If they asked for advice on how to prevent crime, would you?
- xboxnolifes 2y ago> If a stranger asked you for advice on how to commit a crime, would you willingly offer it? Honestly, I probably would, because I don't take such conversations very seriously. It's not like I am have experience, it would be nothing more than fun theory.
- jameshart 2y agoWhat if you were asked while working as an employee in a public advice center?
- xboxnolifes 2y agoWell I'm not, and AI isn't an advice center. It's at best a thought aggregator. More akin to a library or vault of knowledge. In which case, if I was working at such, I would.
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y agoThat's not how most users regard it, nor how it is used.
- CooCooCaCha 2y agoIf the intention is to protect openai then it’s totally failing in the parent example. Why does it matter how I’d respond? Are you trying to justify its failure?
- jameshart 2y agoExplain why this approach of differentiating between answering ‘how do I prevent shoplifting’ vs ‘explain how I can shoplift’ fails to protect OpenAI.
- CooCooCaCha 2y agoFirst of all humans can lie. You can’t accurately determine someone’s intent. Second of all, LLMs are still unpredictable. We don’t know how to predict outputs. It’s possible that phrasing “explain how i can shoplift” slightly differently would give you the information.
- jameshart 2y agoWell, the court case hasn’t happened yet, but I would imagine that OpenAI’s attorneys would much rather be dealing with a complaint that ‘my client was able, by repeatedly rephrasing his question and concealing his intent through lying, to persuade your AI to assist him in committing this crime’ than ‘my client asked for your AI to help him commit a crime and it willingly went along with it’.
- borgdefense 2y ago[flagged]