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Would you prefer to pay for a lifetime of disability payments to returning veterans instead?

logicchains 2y ago
There wouldn't be any disabled veterans if there wasn't a military industrial complex pushing for war all over the globe. The last time America fought a defensive war was WW2, almost a century ago, and if there was no military industrial complex it wouldn't have fought any wars since then.
- polski-g 2y ago
  There were civilian ships being sunk off the coast of Yemen, luckily America has the force projection capable of putting a stop to that. Russia would have taken all of Ukraine if it wasn't for American force projection.
- yakshaving_jgt 2y ago
  Do you understand that other countries exist?
stavrianos 2y ago
this is a _very_ false dichotomy
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago
  It doesn't seem so. I believe they're pointing out that our current best alternative to a robot dog with a gun is a human with a gun. Robot dog gets shot and is decommissioned; human gets shot and relies on disability payments for a few decades.
potta_coffee 2y ago
Who do you think the robots are killing? There are countless videos of drones blowing up Ukranian and Russian soldiers. Drones are being used to kill humans.
- yakshaving_jgt 2y ago
  If you don't kill the russians, they will kill the Ukrainians. How do you solve that?
  - renewiltord 2y ago
    Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics. I'm innocent of anything I ignore. Inaction absolves me of all moral failure.
    - yakshaving_jgt 2y ago
      Ironically, Copenhagen has [fortunately] shown a relatively strong level of support for Ukraine. I wasn’t previously familiar with the Kopenhagener Geist but it was an interesting cursory read. Thank you.
  - potta_coffee 2y ago
    Your ideological position on should win a war is irrelevant. We're discussing the ethics of using automation to kill humans.
dogman144 2y ago
Think those returning vets would like the payments to start in the first place, for your false equivalence to be valid. And I can do that sort of logic as well - would you like to deal with the social unrest from about the only effective mass 18-23 y/o jobs and college program still around going away?
ikekkdcjkfke 2y ago
A million dollar robot dog would be blown up by a toy drone in a minute

There wouldn't be any disabled veterans if there wasn't a military industrial complex pushing for war all over the globe. The last time America fought a defensive war was WW2, almost a century ago, and if there was no military industrial complex it wouldn't have fought any wars since then.

polski-g 2y ago
There were civilian ships being sunk off the coast of Yemen, luckily America has the force projection capable of putting a stop to that. Russia would have taken all of Ukraine if it wasn't for American force projection.
yakshaving_jgt 2y ago
Do you understand that other countries exist?

stavrianos 2y ago

this is a _very_ false dichotomy

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 2y ago
It doesn't seem so. I believe they're pointing out that our current best alternative to a robot dog with a gun is a human with a gun. Robot dog gets shot and is decommissioned; human gets shot and relies on disability payments for a few decades.

potta_coffee 2y ago

Who do you think the robots are killing? There are countless videos of drones blowing up Ukranian and Russian soldiers. Drones are being used to kill humans.

yakshaving_jgt 2y ago
If you don't kill the russians, they will kill the Ukrainians. How do you solve that?
- renewiltord 2y ago
  Copenhagen Interpretation of Ethics. I'm innocent of anything I ignore. Inaction absolves me of all moral failure.
  - yakshaving_jgt 2y ago
    Ironically, Copenhagen has [fortunately] shown a relatively strong level of support for Ukraine. I wasn’t previously familiar with the Kopenhagener Geist but it was an interesting cursory read. Thank you.
- potta_coffee 2y ago
  Your ideological position on should win a war is irrelevant. We're discussing the ethics of using automation to kill humans.

dogman144 2y ago

Think those returning vets would like the payments to start in the first place, for your false equivalence to be valid. And I can do that sort of logic as well - would you like to deal with the social unrest from about the only effective mass 18-23 y/o jobs and college program still around going away?

ikekkdcjkfke 2y ago

A million dollar robot dog would be blown up by a toy drone in a minute