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The latest self driving is getting really good. My main problem is being a front seat driver and taking action because I’m not sure of it’s thought process but

The latest self driving is getting really good. My main problem is being a front seat driver and taking action because I’m not sure of it’s thought process but it ends up getting things correct. I think all these systems* could benefit from earlier braking to give the “supervisor” more piece of mind. * including my wife in this.

misiti3780 2y ago
agree, half the people in this thread havnt used it. i think it's probably clear to most FSD testers that end-to-end NN trained on video will get you L5 eventually.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  I've used it (this weekend, in fact). It's very impressive. It remains a far cry from this, which Musk tweeted (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/686279251293777920 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/686279251293777920) eight years ago: > In ~2 years, summon should work anywhere connected by land & not blocked by borders, eg you're in LA and the car is in NY.
  - misiti3780 2y ago
    agreed. so his prediction was wrong. who cares. think about how much has changed in AI in the past 1.5 years. The timeline is off, but Tesla will achieve autonomy first.
- adrr 2y ago
  I have it. I don’t know how it can be L5 when the cameras get blinded by the sun in the morning and evening. Or when it rains too hard. It also picked up the mannerisms of human drivers like hitting the brakes at a yellow light and then accelerating and in my case tried to run a red.
- itsoktocry 2y ago
  >will get you L5 eventually. "Eventually" wasn't the sales pitch. Is FSD an awesome technology? Yes. But I've watched enough YouTube videos of it, including by superfans, that I know if you set the navigation and climbed in the back seat, that car is not making it to its destination without getting in an accident. That's why the safety vs no FSD comparisons are so silly: you have a person intervening. How would it look if you didn't? Guess we'll find out!

misiti3780 2y ago

agree, half the people in this thread havnt used it. i think it's probably clear to most FSD testers that end-to-end NN trained on video will get you L5 eventually.

ceejayoz 2y ago
I've used it (this weekend, in fact). It's very impressive. It remains a far cry from this, which Musk tweeted (https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/686279251293777920 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/686279251293777920) eight years ago: > In ~2 years, summon should work anywhere connected by land & not blocked by borders, eg you're in LA and the car is in NY.
- misiti3780 2y ago
  agreed. so his prediction was wrong. who cares. think about how much has changed in AI in the past 1.5 years. The timeline is off, but Tesla will achieve autonomy first.
adrr 2y ago
I have it. I don’t know how it can be L5 when the cameras get blinded by the sun in the morning and evening. Or when it rains too hard. It also picked up the mannerisms of human drivers like hitting the brakes at a yellow light and then accelerating and in my case tried to run a red.
itsoktocry 2y ago
>will get you L5 eventually. "Eventually" wasn't the sales pitch. Is FSD an awesome technology? Yes. But I've watched enough YouTube videos of it, including by superfans, that I know if you set the navigation and climbed in the back seat, that car is not making it to its destination without getting in an accident. That's why the safety vs no FSD comparisons are so silly: you have a person intervening. How would it look if you didn't? Guess we'll find out!