Sure. My point was just that there is value for those who care about security. Also I have quite a few friends (many Android devs) who have had Pixels for year

Sure. My point was just that there is value for those who care about security. Also I have quite a few friends (many Android devs) who have had Pixels for years, and seem happy. My point was that I don't think Pixels are particularly bad. In fact, they are pretty good in some metrics. And very far from being "pieces of shit" like the original comment is saying. I personally have a Fairphone, which I believe is very good in what it does. But very different from e.g. a Samsung flagship, of course.