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> The platform is more open and vibrant than ever You reveal your lack of experience with Twitter, it's declined a lot. Pretty sure you can't even link to a t

by _akhe 2y ago

> The platform is more open and vibrant than ever You reveal your lack of experience with Twitter, it's declined a lot. Pretty sure you can't even link to a tweet (a xweet?) from a news article or blog post - they totally killed the platform, not sure where you've been.

MisterDizzy 2y ago
A lot of people are really defensive about this. What's the big deal if X does well? Why are people so personally invested in pretending like Elon didn't do the world a huge service by removing Twitter from the control of possibly the most politically extreme and anti-constitutional subculture in the entire country?
- _akhe 2y ago
  I can tell by the upvote/downvote dance on the parent comment - people love their celebrities. They get really mad if you talk bad about Elon Musk lol I find it quite pathetic personally. I of course disagree - I don't see the "huge service". Everything from defrauding investors, customers, speaking out of school (saying he's a physicist in the early days), hanging out with Ghislaine Maxwell, stealing then tanking Tesla, destroying Twitter, he's a walking disaster to the point I believe it's intentional.
  - erikerikson 2y ago
    I'm not sure how you'd see the "dance" but anyway... I'd hold the "visited decisive politics" hypothesis at a much higher probability over "celebrity parasocial loyalties" for down and up voting in this case. That said, trying to guess at the motivations of the diverse crowd here is fraught at best.
    - _akhe 2y ago
      Really you've never seen a comment of yours bounce around negative and positive on polarizing issues? It's kinda cool to see, makes this platform feel more solid than others. > celebrity loyalty You must have missed that meme https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/477/624/072.jpg https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/477/624/072... It was in response to the insufferable worship happening in comment sections everywhere. I wonder how much he was paying for PR each month back then, and what agency he uses. At any rate, that there was a good meme.
      - erikerikson 2y ago
        I have seen mine be down voted at times and then later up voted but not in a responsive sense. Have I missed a feature or maybe you're using an outside reader? Regardless, I've only noticed for my own account. Perhaps you own both accounts? I completely miss all the memes as a rule, thanks for sharing.
        _akhe 2y ago
        I posted the parent comment. Referring to the parent comment of MisterDizzy's. I only have 1 account, though I probably should create a burner for certain topics... it seems that just 1 bad take here can destroy a career. Can't wait til this authoritarian phase is over, just want to share opinions again and it not matter that much.
        erikerikson 2y ago
        Thanks for clearing up my confusion, sorry for it. Turning otherwise intelligent people against one another is an old and battle tested control and mitigation strategy but yeah, it feels bad. Turns out nothing inherently keeps us from just doing better. May have to start a company though.
  - JumpCrisscross 2y ago
    > people love their celebrities. They get really mad if you talk bad about Elon Musk lol I find it quite pathetic personally. People have strong opinions about celebrities they don't know, don't have any control over and have zero material stake in; news at eleven. (The last is the only one that isn't sometimes true about Elon.)
  - MisterDizzy 2y ago
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- 91bananas 2y ago
  I personally preferred the original politically extreme and anti-constitutional subculture better.
  - MisterDizzy 2y ago
    At least you're honest. Everyone must remember that "they" and "their side" are capable of the same evil as their enemies. The existence of a truly open discussion must be sacred, or we might as well dismantle it all. Or, if your goal is to dismantle instead of building or fixing things, remind me to never let you have any power.
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- jcranmer 2y ago
  > the control of possibly the most politically extreme and anti-constitutional subculture in the entire country? What are you trying to refer to here? Because the most politically extreme and anti-constitutional subculture I can think of right now is QAnon, which has not (nor is not) in control of Twitter.
  - MisterDizzy 2y ago
    Ever been to San Francisco? Portland? Seattle?
- taco_emoji 2y ago
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neglesaks 2y ago
What you claim is clearly incorrect. First, major news outlets all over the world are still linking to twitter posts daily, not least because most of the worlds journalists are still actively using twitter, so obviously this feature still works. Also, there has never been more product development on Twitter/X than since the Musk takeover. Examples include community notes, creator revenue sharing and the features tied to the purchased blue checkmark (eg. Posts longer than 280 chars). The major handicapping of the platform compared to earlier is that only the post linked to is now visible to non-users, whereas the whole thread it was part of was previously visible.
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  > Examples include community notes... No, they don't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Notes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Notes "In November 2022, at the request of new owner Elon Musk, Birdwatch was rebranded to Community Notes..."

by _akhe 2y ago

MisterDizzy 2y ago

A lot of people are really defensive about this. What's the big deal if X does well? Why are people so personally invested in pretending like Elon didn't do the world a huge service by removing Twitter from the control of possibly the most politically extreme and anti-constitutional subculture in the entire country?

_akhe 2y ago
I can tell by the upvote/downvote dance on the parent comment - people love their celebrities. They get really mad if you talk bad about Elon Musk lol I find it quite pathetic personally. I of course disagree - I don't see the "huge service". Everything from defrauding investors, customers, speaking out of school (saying he's a physicist in the early days), hanging out with Ghislaine Maxwell, stealing then tanking Tesla, destroying Twitter, he's a walking disaster to the point I believe it's intentional.
- erikerikson 2y ago
  I'm not sure how you'd see the "dance" but anyway... I'd hold the "visited decisive politics" hypothesis at a much higher probability over "celebrity parasocial loyalties" for down and up voting in this case. That said, trying to guess at the motivations of the diverse crowd here is fraught at best.
  - _akhe 2y ago
    Really you've never seen a comment of yours bounce around negative and positive on polarizing issues? It's kinda cool to see, makes this platform feel more solid than others. > celebrity loyalty You must have missed that meme https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/477/624/072.jpg https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/477/624/072... It was in response to the insufferable worship happening in comment sections everywhere. I wonder how much he was paying for PR each month back then, and what agency he uses. At any rate, that there was a good meme.
    - erikerikson 2y ago
      I have seen mine be down voted at times and then later up voted but not in a responsive sense. Have I missed a feature or maybe you're using an outside reader? Regardless, I've only noticed for my own account. Perhaps you own both accounts? I completely miss all the memes as a rule, thanks for sharing.
      - _akhe 2y ago
        I posted the parent comment. Referring to the parent comment of MisterDizzy's. I only have 1 account, though I probably should create a burner for certain topics... it seems that just 1 bad take here can destroy a career. Can't wait til this authoritarian phase is over, just want to share opinions again and it not matter that much.
        erikerikson 2y ago
        Thanks for clearing up my confusion, sorry for it. Turning otherwise intelligent people against one another is an old and battle tested control and mitigation strategy but yeah, it feels bad. Turns out nothing inherently keeps us from just doing better. May have to start a company though.
- JumpCrisscross 2y ago
  > people love their celebrities. They get really mad if you talk bad about Elon Musk lol I find it quite pathetic personally. People have strong opinions about celebrities they don't know, don't have any control over and have zero material stake in; news at eleven. (The last is the only one that isn't sometimes true about Elon.)
- MisterDizzy 2y ago
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91bananas 2y ago
I personally preferred the original politically extreme and anti-constitutional subculture better.
- MisterDizzy 2y ago
  At least you're honest. Everyone must remember that "they" and "their side" are capable of the same evil as their enemies. The existence of a truly open discussion must be sacred, or we might as well dismantle it all. Or, if your goal is to dismantle instead of building or fixing things, remind me to never let you have any power.
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jcranmer 2y ago
> the control of possibly the most politically extreme and anti-constitutional subculture in the entire country? What are you trying to refer to here? Because the most politically extreme and anti-constitutional subculture I can think of right now is QAnon, which has not (nor is not) in control of Twitter.
- MisterDizzy 2y ago
  Ever been to San Francisco? Portland? Seattle?
taco_emoji 2y ago
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neglesaks 2y ago

What you claim is clearly incorrect. First, major news outlets all over the world are still linking to twitter posts daily, not least because most of the worlds journalists are still actively using twitter, so obviously this feature still works. Also, there has never been more product development on Twitter/X than since the Musk takeover. Examples include community notes, creator revenue sharing and the features tied to the purchased blue checkmark (eg. Posts longer than 280 chars). The major handicapping of the platform compared to earlier is that only the post linked to is now visible to non-users, whereas the whole thread it was part of was previously visible.

ceejayoz 2y ago
> Examples include community notes... No, they don't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Notes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Notes "In November 2022, at the request of new owner Elon Musk, Birdwatch was rebranded to Community Notes..."