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Who is choosing to use macOS, where non-Apple monitors and other 3rd party hardware just stops working after minor updates and then starts working again after a

by steve1977 2y ago

Who is choosing to use macOS, where non-Apple monitors and other 3rd party hardware just stops working after minor updates and then starts working again after another update, without any official statement from Apple that there was a problem and a fix?

mschuster91 2y ago
So what, Windows does the same. Printers [1], WiFi [2], VPN [3], Bluetooth devices [4], audio [5] - and that's just stuff I found via auto-completing "windows update breaks" on Google in under 5 minutes. The only problem is that Apple is even worse at communicating issues than Microsoft is. [1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-warns-windows-10-usb-printing-breaks-due-to-recent-updates/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-wa... [2] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-fixes-wi-fi-issues-triggered-by-recent-windows-updates/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-fi... [3] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-says-april-windows-updates-break-vpn-connections/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-sa... [4] https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/06/12/microsoft-windows-10-upgrade-update-security-problem-bluetooth-warning-cost-windows-10-home/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/06/12/microsof... [5] https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/22/windows_10_update_killing_sound/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/22/windows_10_update_kil...
- steve1977 2y ago
  The big difference is that Microsoft - at least usually - confirms and owns the issues. With Apple, it's usually just crickets... nothing in the release notes, no official statements, nothing. It's just trial and error for the users to see if a particular update fixed the issue.
lupire 2y ago
That's anti-competitive and frustrating, but not an argument against the value of a pure Apple hardware ecosystem.
- steve1977 2y ago
  Which was not the point. The question was who would be choosing Windows over macOS. I would and this is one of the reasons why.
wiseowise 2y ago
I do. Because for all issues it has, it is still much better than whatever Windows has to offer. > where non-Apple monitors and other 3rd party hardware just stops working after minor updates and then starts working again after another update, without any official statement from Apple that there was a problem and a fix? At least my WiFi doesn't turn off indefinitely during sleep until I power cycle whole laptop because of a shitty driver.

mschuster91 2y ago

So what, Windows does the same. Printers [1], WiFi [2], VPN [3], Bluetooth devices [4], audio [5] - and that's just stuff I found via auto-completing "windows update breaks" on Google in under 5 minutes. The only problem is that Apple is even worse at communicating issues than Microsoft is. [1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-warns-windows-10-usb-printing-breaks-due-to-recent-updates/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-wa... [2] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-fixes-wi-fi-issues-triggered-by-recent-windows-updates/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-fi... [3] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-says-april-windows-updates-break-vpn-connections/ https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-sa... [4] https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/06/12/microsoft-windows-10-upgrade-update-security-problem-bluetooth-warning-cost-windows-10-home/ https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/06/12/microsof... [5] https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/22/windows_10_update_killing_sound/ https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/22/windows_10_update_kil...

steve1977 2y ago
The big difference is that Microsoft - at least usually - confirms and owns the issues. With Apple, it's usually just crickets... nothing in the release notes, no official statements, nothing. It's just trial and error for the users to see if a particular update fixed the issue.

lupire 2y ago

That's anti-competitive and frustrating, but not an argument against the value of a pure Apple hardware ecosystem.

steve1977 2y ago
Which was not the point. The question was who would be choosing Windows over macOS. I would and this is one of the reasons why.

wiseowise 2y ago

I do. Because for all issues it has, it is still much better than whatever Windows has to offer. > where non-Apple monitors and other 3rd party hardware just stops working after minor updates and then starts working again after another update, without any official statement from Apple that there was a problem and a fix? At least my WiFi doesn't turn off indefinitely during sleep until I power cycle whole laptop because of a shitty driver.