Yeah that's the challenge with front end opinions - there's still a lot of folks who want to write code that way (even when using frameworks), then bitch about

Yeah that's the challenge with front end opinions - there's still a lot of folks who want to write code that way (even when using frameworks), then bitch about "too much magic!", etc. I'm with you that I do not want to deal with all that, give me a mental model of state->UI and I'm good.