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They don't care. You don't think Apple with their trillions of dollars maybe could make a version of the iPhone version that's upgradable? The worst thing is th

They don't care. You don't think Apple with their trillions of dollars maybe could make a version of the iPhone version that's upgradable? The worst thing is the industry follows their lead so everything they don't do, the industry does as well. Apple comes out with 4 versions of the iPhone every year right? How about a fifth version that is 2mm thicker with the ability to upgrade. This is the wealthiest company on the planet in history and they are doing almost nothing.

nozzlegear 2y ago
I'll quote myself from elsewhere in this thread: > Personally I think it’s better to do some good for the environment than no good for the environment. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. They should absolutely let us repair every device, but I’m glad they make the environmental efforts they currently do as well.
- coldtea 2y ago
  >> Personally I think it’s better to do some good for the environment than no good for the environment. "Some good for the environment" is 0.1% better in some marginal areas (packaging , recycled X material, bundled cables, the stickers in the box it announced it will stop this year, and so on) combined with 20% worse in other areas (tens of millions of devices) for a net 19.9% worse. And, yes, 19.9% worse is technically better than 20% worse. Like "technically" removing a bucket of water from a flooding river is less flood than leaving it all. Practically it's worse. It does nothing to stop the catastrophe, and even worse, this greenwashing is giving false assurances, which help maintain and compound the 19.9% worse year over year (as opposed to people demanding they do something real). And of the course the hypocrisy, encouraged this way, doesn't stop with Apple.
  - nozzlegear 2y ago
    I won’t argue with these because I assume these percentages are 19.9% made up.
    - coldtea 2y ago
      They're clearly meant to be illustrative, not specific... except if you thought the argument was that Apple's damage to the environment is precisely 19.9% of some yet unspecified unit wooooosh
servus45678981 2y ago
The wealthiest is Microsoft and can you provide sources for your “knowledge“?

nozzlegear 2y ago

I'll quote myself from elsewhere in this thread: > Personally I think it’s better to do some good for the environment than no good for the environment. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good. They should absolutely let us repair every device, but I’m glad they make the environmental efforts they currently do as well.

coldtea 2y ago
>> Personally I think it’s better to do some good for the environment than no good for the environment. "Some good for the environment" is 0.1% better in some marginal areas (packaging , recycled X material, bundled cables, the stickers in the box it announced it will stop this year, and so on) combined with 20% worse in other areas (tens of millions of devices) for a net 19.9% worse. And, yes, 19.9% worse is technically better than 20% worse. Like "technically" removing a bucket of water from a flooding river is less flood than leaving it all. Practically it's worse. It does nothing to stop the catastrophe, and even worse, this greenwashing is giving false assurances, which help maintain and compound the 19.9% worse year over year (as opposed to people demanding they do something real). And of the course the hypocrisy, encouraged this way, doesn't stop with Apple.
- nozzlegear 2y ago
  I won’t argue with these because I assume these percentages are 19.9% made up.
  - coldtea 2y ago
    They're clearly meant to be illustrative, not specific... except if you thought the argument was that Apple's damage to the environment is precisely 19.9% of some yet unspecified unit wooooosh

servus45678981 2y ago

The wealthiest is Microsoft and can you provide sources for your “knowledge“?