4 ms·

Cross platform toolkits, more than other software components incur massive tradeoffs. They’ve written one themselves, tailored to their needs and open sourced i

by jamil7 2y ago

Cross platform toolkits, more than other software components incur massive tradeoffs. They’ve written one themselves, tailored to their needs and open sourced it along the way. I guess I don’t see the problem here. If one that’s existed for decades fits your needs better then use that.

jauntywundrkind 2y ago
Wgpu seems very very well loved & supported, is one of the most successful comings together of the graphics world in ages. I'd love to hear some actual critique of it, hear what people think are shortcomings, because it feels to an outsider like this is the fantasy land, that we're living in the better place now. https://github.com/gfx-rs/wgpu https://github.com/gfx-rs/wgpu
- auggierose 2y ago
  Well, it's Rust. I am using TypeScript. I guess I am sticking with Electron. Maybe WebGPU can help me out.
- littlestymaar 2y ago
  What I find interesting is that kvark, the open source contributor that made Linux port possible was the main developer on wgpu at Mozilla, yet he decided to build an alternative [1] to wgpu that he used for zed. I wonder what's the rational for that. [1]: https://github.com/kvark/blade https://github.com/kvark/blade
  - jauntywundrkind 2y ago
    Dzmitry gave a talk at a rust gamedev meetup on Blade. This ain't my turf so apologies for inaccuracies here. It appears to be a fairly novel attempt to write a graphics library with a semi conventional looking pipeline, that under the hood ends up eskewing a lot of the Vulkan concepts. Instead of per object contexts, it uses global contexts to do most work. Instead of taking resources and binding them into descriptor sets to use across pipelines (tracking state), Blade kind of recreates resources on the fly, lets them get used, and disposed of them. Kind of interesting philosophy of a complex binding model in Vulkan/WebGPU vs a more direct diy render model? https://www.youtube.com/live/63dnzjw4azI?si=KzLPm-gBX0gDKq7H#t=12m45s https://www.youtube.com/live/63dnzjw4azI?si=KzLPm-gBX0gDKq7H... Zed tool this work as an outside contribution. Maybe that someone did the work was good enough. I'm not sure what would make Blade a better match or not, vs wgpu-hal.
- deleted 2y ago
  [deleted]

by jamil7 2y ago

jauntywundrkind 2y ago

Wgpu seems very very well loved & supported, is one of the most successful comings together of the graphics world in ages. I'd love to hear some actual critique of it, hear what people think are shortcomings, because it feels to an outsider like this is the fantasy land, that we're living in the better place now. https://github.com/gfx-rs/wgpu https://github.com/gfx-rs/wgpu

auggierose 2y ago
Well, it's Rust. I am using TypeScript. I guess I am sticking with Electron. Maybe WebGPU can help me out.
littlestymaar 2y ago
What I find interesting is that kvark, the open source contributor that made Linux port possible was the main developer on wgpu at Mozilla, yet he decided to build an alternative [1] to wgpu that he used for zed. I wonder what's the rational for that. [1]: https://github.com/kvark/blade https://github.com/kvark/blade
- jauntywundrkind 2y ago
  Dzmitry gave a talk at a rust gamedev meetup on Blade. This ain't my turf so apologies for inaccuracies here. It appears to be a fairly novel attempt to write a graphics library with a semi conventional looking pipeline, that under the hood ends up eskewing a lot of the Vulkan concepts. Instead of per object contexts, it uses global contexts to do most work. Instead of taking resources and binding them into descriptor sets to use across pipelines (tracking state), Blade kind of recreates resources on the fly, lets them get used, and disposed of them. Kind of interesting philosophy of a complex binding model in Vulkan/WebGPU vs a more direct diy render model? https://www.youtube.com/live/63dnzjw4azI?si=KzLPm-gBX0gDKq7H#t=12m45s https://www.youtube.com/live/63dnzjw4azI?si=KzLPm-gBX0gDKq7H... Zed tool this work as an outside contribution. Maybe that someone did the work was good enough. I'm not sure what would make Blade a better match or not, vs wgpu-hal.
deleted 2y ago
[deleted]