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This is the first time I see FPS mentioned for a text editor. Is this something that matters or just an pointless metric utilized as selling point?

SomeRndName11 2y ago
Well it may have effect on ergonomics. Some people claim they cannot use 60Hz monitor after trying 144hz.
- NekkoDroid 2y ago
  Well, that is usually refering to some form of "simulated fluid motion", not new characters appearing and disappearing. The only case where that kinda fluid motion would matter is when you have text scrolling by at semi-fast speeds.
  - ffsm8 2y ago
    I count myself among the people that would consider >60hz necessary. For me, it's animations, especially if I'm dragging a window or just the mouse. On 60hz it's nauseating if I'm paying too much attention to the window I'm moving. It's goes completely away around 90-100 Hz (at least for me)
    - LoganDark 2y ago
      I've had the privilege of using a merely 90Hz display and the difference is still incredible. It gives me input feedback much faster so my brain does not have to do as much buffering/prediction, everything feels a lot more direct. One would think a measly 5 milliseconds wouldn't amount to much, but for input feedback it absolutely does. I do not suffer from nausea or motion sickness of any kind arising from computers or visuals in general, but I can still easily tell the difference between a 60Hz and 90Hz display. A few months ago I had the privilege of checking out the 120Hz displays on the new MacBooks and they're amazing.
    - NekkoDroid 2y ago
      I'd still say that draggin a window would count as a "simulated fluid motion". Maybe not something you'd immediatly think of, but its still trying to convey the sense of motion. Just text appearing and dissappearing isn't something I personally could categorize ass the same type of animation. And I also count myself as someone who considers 120 at least necessary (on the primary monitor)
freqmod 2y ago
Fps in itself is not important, but it is a substitute for input latency, and if your keystrokes start lagging it feels sluggish. At least historically electron based editors (like atom) has been feeling significantly more sluggish than sublime text or vim with a decent terminal emulator.
- forgotpwd16 2y ago
  For terminal emulators comparisons at least the metrics used are latency and throughput. Now those plus times to do operations (load file, search & replace, etc) wouldn't surprise me to be the comparison metrics for text editors. FPS though feels weird.
sunshowers 2y ago
As far as I can tell, graphics pipelines often use frame buffering. The quicker the next frame can be drawn, the faster it feels.
- adastra22 2y ago
  GUI apps like text editors don’t redraw frames every update cycle.

SomeRndName11 2y ago

Well it may have effect on ergonomics. Some people claim they cannot use 60Hz monitor after trying 144hz.

NekkoDroid 2y ago
Well, that is usually refering to some form of "simulated fluid motion", not new characters appearing and disappearing. The only case where that kinda fluid motion would matter is when you have text scrolling by at semi-fast speeds.
- ffsm8 2y ago
  I count myself among the people that would consider >60hz necessary. For me, it's animations, especially if I'm dragging a window or just the mouse. On 60hz it's nauseating if I'm paying too much attention to the window I'm moving. It's goes completely away around 90-100 Hz (at least for me)
  - LoganDark 2y ago
    I've had the privilege of using a merely 90Hz display and the difference is still incredible. It gives me input feedback much faster so my brain does not have to do as much buffering/prediction, everything feels a lot more direct. One would think a measly 5 milliseconds wouldn't amount to much, but for input feedback it absolutely does. I do not suffer from nausea or motion sickness of any kind arising from computers or visuals in general, but I can still easily tell the difference between a 60Hz and 90Hz display. A few months ago I had the privilege of checking out the 120Hz displays on the new MacBooks and they're amazing.
  - NekkoDroid 2y ago
    I'd still say that draggin a window would count as a "simulated fluid motion". Maybe not something you'd immediatly think of, but its still trying to convey the sense of motion. Just text appearing and dissappearing isn't something I personally could categorize ass the same type of animation. And I also count myself as someone who considers 120 at least necessary (on the primary monitor)

freqmod 2y ago

Fps in itself is not important, but it is a substitute for input latency, and if your keystrokes start lagging it feels sluggish. At least historically electron based editors (like atom) has been feeling significantly more sluggish than sublime text or vim with a decent terminal emulator.

forgotpwd16 2y ago
For terminal emulators comparisons at least the metrics used are latency and throughput. Now those plus times to do operations (load file, search & replace, etc) wouldn't surprise me to be the comparison metrics for text editors. FPS though feels weird.

sunshowers 2y ago

As far as I can tell, graphics pipelines often use frame buffering. The quicker the next frame can be drawn, the faster it feels.

adastra22 2y ago
GUI apps like text editors don’t redraw frames every update cycle.