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It's funny how TikTok took Vine's short video concept and brought it to another level, meaning US was the original innovator not the Chinese. If Facebook or Goo

It's funny how TikTok took Vine's short video concept and brought it to another level, meaning US was the original innovator not the Chinese. If Facebook or Google acquired Vine back in the day, TikTok wouldn't probably exist or maybe it would if Google would shut down Vine or if Zuck would screw up Vine. Now US has to deal with the fact that foreign entrepreneurs know also how to make viral apps but let's be honest China is not the one you would trust with your personal phone and your personal data.

amadeuspagel 2y ago
Vine had a 6 seconds limit, TikTok has a 10 minute limit now. It's not about short videos, it's about the algorithm.
- mrkramer 2y ago
  >It's not about short videos, it's about the algorithm. People have short attention span so it was about short videos and yea it's also about discovery algorithm. Vine didn't have a chance at Twitter and now Twitter is going down as well....oh well. Tbh I never used Vine nor TikTok, I just read about them but did Vine have some sort of discovery feature akin to TikTok or YouTube?
  - amadeuspagel 2y ago
    People don't have to watch videos to the end, so the attention span doesn't matter.
    - mrkramer 2y ago
      So if you have a short attention span would you prefer watching 10 minutes of 2 hour movie or you would rather prefer watching 10 minutes of 10 seconds funny videos on TikTok?! Different formats are meant for different purposes, in another words you can't half ass movie, documentary or whatever long form video content type there exists....you have to watch it till the end, either in one go or in multiple takes. For example YouTube became popular because it allowed on demand video of "short" video content, short compared to TV. As kids, teens and people in general became internet dopamine addicts, they sought more faster and "instant" form of entertainment and rest is history. The same conceptual connection can be drawn with traditional "long" form video games and casual and hypercasual mobile games. People became more lazy and and the same time more "thirsty" for dopamine and mobile devs exploited that need with casual and hypercasual mobile games.
      - amadeuspagel 2y ago
        YouTube initially had a 10 minute limit to stop people from uploading entire episodes of TV shows, and dropped that limit as soon as it had ways to identify pirated content. There are many things on YouTube today which are longer then anything comparable on TV, like 6 hour interviews.

amadeuspagel 2y ago

Vine had a 6 seconds limit, TikTok has a 10 minute limit now. It's not about short videos, it's about the algorithm.

mrkramer 2y ago
>It's not about short videos, it's about the algorithm. People have short attention span so it was about short videos and yea it's also about discovery algorithm. Vine didn't have a chance at Twitter and now Twitter is going down as well....oh well. Tbh I never used Vine nor TikTok, I just read about them but did Vine have some sort of discovery feature akin to TikTok or YouTube?
- amadeuspagel 2y ago
  People don't have to watch videos to the end, so the attention span doesn't matter.
  - mrkramer 2y ago
    So if you have a short attention span would you prefer watching 10 minutes of 2 hour movie or you would rather prefer watching 10 minutes of 10 seconds funny videos on TikTok?! Different formats are meant for different purposes, in another words you can't half ass movie, documentary or whatever long form video content type there exists....you have to watch it till the end, either in one go or in multiple takes. For example YouTube became popular because it allowed on demand video of "short" video content, short compared to TV. As kids, teens and people in general became internet dopamine addicts, they sought more faster and "instant" form of entertainment and rest is history. The same conceptual connection can be drawn with traditional "long" form video games and casual and hypercasual mobile games. People became more lazy and and the same time more "thirsty" for dopamine and mobile devs exploited that need with casual and hypercasual mobile games.
    - amadeuspagel 2y ago
      YouTube initially had a 10 minute limit to stop people from uploading entire episodes of TV shows, and dropped that limit as soon as it had ways to identify pirated content. There are many things on YouTube today which are longer then anything comparable on TV, like 6 hour interviews.