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That's easily remedied - axes and specialized entry tools can be used for exiting. Yeah, if it doesn't meet the legal definition of a bedroom, it can't be list

That's easily remedied - axes and specialized entry tools can be used for exiting. Yeah, if it doesn't meet the legal definition of a bedroom, it can't be listed as one. That's partially why there are so few interior rooms - lower property value vs if it was a bedroom (but mainly consumer demand for windows).

eropple 3y ago
> That's easily remedied - axes and specialized entry tools can be used for exiting. You keep an axe in your bedroom?
- giantg2 3y ago
  My bedroom has a window, so no. If your bedroom doesn't have a window and you're concerned about another exit, then sure.
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- WalterBright 3y ago
  Yes. Seattle is earthquake country, and I want to be able to get out if the doors are blocked or jammed from earthquake or fire. It's a fireman's axe, as that job is what they're designed for. I also keep a fire extinguisher in the bedroom.
  - bombcar 3y ago
    I mean you’re also an axe murder, but that’s besides the point. ;)
    - WalterBright 3y ago
      If you've ever handled a fire axe, you'd realize it makes a lousy weapon. It has a long handle, with a heavy head. The idea is it can build up a lot of momentum to crash through things like doors and walls. But the long handle makes it difficult to swing in a melee, and slow to swing, and once the swing starts it will be very hard to change its arc. Hence, your target can easily sidestep it. I suppose it would be good against plate armor, but not many villains wear plate armor these days. You also have to be careful with a fire axe to not chop your foot if you miss. I don't think I've ever seen a war axe/hatchet/tomahawk anywhere near that size. For self-defense in close quarters, a baseball bat is ideal. P.S. I am no martial arts expert.
      - giantg2 3y ago
        "For self-defense in close quarters, a baseball bat is ideal." Eh, not really. That's still a lot of unbalanced mass and potentially excessive length. There's a reason batons and other strike weapons aren't made like bats.
        bombcar 3y ago
        The best close quarter weapon, of course, is a (potentially illegally) sawed-off shotgun. The second best is something that you've extensively practiced with, and designed for the purpose.
        bluGill 3y ago
        A gun is a terrible close quarters weapon. A gun is so good at long range that you can typically ensure you never get into a close quarters fight, but once it becomes close quarters you want something else. (with a gun you do have to keep the muzzle pointed away from you - but one hit with the bat will damage the barrel enough that it isn't safe to fire)
        WalterBright 3y ago
        Aren't batons made to not produce serious injury? I.e. they're meant to coerce.
jrockway 3y ago
Yeah, you can put beds in whatever room you want. You just can't sell a room with no window as a bedroom.
- bluGill 3y ago
  In some cases you can - most of the time codes don't allow it, but there are exceptions. Check the local laws..
SkyPuncher 3y ago
Even simpler, many interior walls are built with studs covered by drywall. Most able bodied adults can break drwall between the studs. It’s not a particularly strong material.
- throwway120385 3y ago
  It really depends on the drywall. If it's 3/4 inch soundproof drywall over sound insulation with services like water, electrical, and sewage you can break it but now you have to navigate the services. And many people aren't going to shove themselves through studs on 16" centers.
  - giantg2 3y ago
    If they're worried about not fitting through 16" studs (let alone this entire scenario), then they should select a room with two doors. If you can't fit through studs, I find it hard to believe they're fitting through most windows (generally a more awkward position with limited dimensions too).
  - SkyPuncher 3y ago
    Those services are in very limited places in interior walls. You may have an electrical line running to the outlets, but you be extremely unlikely to hit sewer or water. If you do, the gap ti the left or right is extremely unlikely to also have the same services.
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eropple 3y ago

> That's easily remedied - axes and specialized entry tools can be used for exiting. You keep an axe in your bedroom?

giantg2 3y ago
My bedroom has a window, so no. If your bedroom doesn't have a window and you're concerned about another exit, then sure.
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WalterBright 3y ago
Yes. Seattle is earthquake country, and I want to be able to get out if the doors are blocked or jammed from earthquake or fire. It's a fireman's axe, as that job is what they're designed for. I also keep a fire extinguisher in the bedroom.
- bombcar 3y ago
  I mean you’re also an axe murder, but that’s besides the point. ;)
  - WalterBright 3y ago
    If you've ever handled a fire axe, you'd realize it makes a lousy weapon. It has a long handle, with a heavy head. The idea is it can build up a lot of momentum to crash through things like doors and walls. But the long handle makes it difficult to swing in a melee, and slow to swing, and once the swing starts it will be very hard to change its arc. Hence, your target can easily sidestep it. I suppose it would be good against plate armor, but not many villains wear plate armor these days. You also have to be careful with a fire axe to not chop your foot if you miss. I don't think I've ever seen a war axe/hatchet/tomahawk anywhere near that size. For self-defense in close quarters, a baseball bat is ideal. P.S. I am no martial arts expert.
    - giantg2 3y ago
      "For self-defense in close quarters, a baseball bat is ideal." Eh, not really. That's still a lot of unbalanced mass and potentially excessive length. There's a reason batons and other strike weapons aren't made like bats.
      - bombcar 3y ago
        The best close quarter weapon, of course, is a (potentially illegally) sawed-off shotgun. The second best is something that you've extensively practiced with, and designed for the purpose.
        bluGill 3y ago
        A gun is a terrible close quarters weapon. A gun is so good at long range that you can typically ensure you never get into a close quarters fight, but once it becomes close quarters you want something else. (with a gun you do have to keep the muzzle pointed away from you - but one hit with the bat will damage the barrel enough that it isn't safe to fire)
      - WalterBright 3y ago
        Aren't batons made to not produce serious injury? I.e. they're meant to coerce.

jrockway 3y ago

Yeah, you can put beds in whatever room you want. You just can't sell a room with no window as a bedroom.

bluGill 3y ago
In some cases you can - most of the time codes don't allow it, but there are exceptions. Check the local laws..

SkyPuncher 3y ago

Even simpler, many interior walls are built with studs covered by drywall. Most able bodied adults can break drwall between the studs. It’s not a particularly strong material.

throwway120385 3y ago
It really depends on the drywall. If it's 3/4 inch soundproof drywall over sound insulation with services like water, electrical, and sewage you can break it but now you have to navigate the services. And many people aren't going to shove themselves through studs on 16" centers.
- giantg2 3y ago
  If they're worried about not fitting through 16" studs (let alone this entire scenario), then they should select a room with two doors. If you can't fit through studs, I find it hard to believe they're fitting through most windows (generally a more awkward position with limited dimensions too).
- SkyPuncher 3y ago
  Those services are in very limited places in interior walls. You may have an electrical line running to the outlets, but you be extremely unlikely to hit sewer or water. If you do, the gap ti the left or right is extremely unlikely to also have the same services.
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