OTOH a quick and easy way to make your argument is to claim everyone holds it. Let's inspect your claim: "It's a pretty common opinion nowadays that Apple is

OTOH a quick and easy way to make your argument is to claim everyone holds it. Let's inspect your claim: "It's a pretty common opinion nowadays that Apple is the worst in the bunch; beating the pants off any unethical stuff Microsoft might be up to -- or was up to even back in the day." Let's examine your first piece of evidence: they have a closed ecosystem. Let examine something MS is famous for doing back in the day: destroying Netscape No one in their right mind would put these in the same league, I don't know why you nonchalantly claim not only that they are but Apple's worse and that this "beats the pants off" MS in the evilness department. Let's examine another one of your pieces of evidence: the removal of RA's app because it reverse engineered a private API or something. Let's compare this to something else MS was famous for back in the day: bankrolling SCO's attempt to kill linux. Well clearly again if we had a scale of evilness with Nathan Myrvold being a 10 and Hitler 100, MS might be a solid 6-8 and Apple maybe a 1-3. So you can keep defending what you said til the end of time but I'm going to call it total bullshit and be done with it here.