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The Samsung tablets at least still retain the SD card slot, so you can focus more on the desired amount of RAM and not worry too much about the built-in storage

The Samsung tablets at least still retain the SD card slot, so you can focus more on the desired amount of RAM and not worry too much about the built-in storage size.

Teever 2y ago
It would be cool if regulators mandated that companies like Apple are obligated to provide models of devices with SD card slots and a seamless way to integrate this storage into the OS/applications. That combined with replaceable batteries would go a long way to reduce the amount of ewaste.
- mschuster91 2y ago
  And then people would stick alphabet-soup SD cards into their devices and complain about performance and data integrity, it's enough of a headache in the Android world already (or has been before Samsung and others finally decided to put in enough storage for people to not rely on SD cards any more). In contrast, Apple's internal storage to my knowledge always is very durable NVMe, attached logically and physically directly to the CPU, which makes their shenanigans with low RAM size possible in the first place - they swap like hell but as a user you barely notice it because it's so blazing fast.
  - Teever 2y ago
    Yeah jackasses are always gonna jackass. There's still a public interest in making devices upgradable for the purpose of minimizing e-waste. I'd just love to buy a device with a moderate amount of unupgreadable SSD and an SD slot so that I can put a more memory in it later so the device can last longer.
    - mschuster91 2y ago
      Agreed but please with something other than microSD cards. Yes, microSD Express is a thing, but both cards and hosts supporting it are rare, the size format doesn't exactly lend itself to durable flash chips, thermals are questionable, and even the most modern microSD Express cards barely hit 800 MB/sec speed, whereas Apple's stuff has hit twice or more that for years [2]. [1] https://winfuture.de/news,141439.html https://winfuture.de/news,141439.html [2] https://9to5mac.com/2024/03/09/macbook-air-m3-storage-speeds/ https://9to5mac.com/2024/03/09/macbook-air-m3-storage-speeds...
- davedx 2y ago
  Not everything has to be solved by regulators. The walled garden is way more important to fix than arbitrary hardware configurations
zozbot234 2y ago
Doesn't iPad come with an USB-C port nowadays? You can attach an external SD card reader.
- amlib 2y ago
  Just like I don't want an umbilical cord hanging out of me just to perform the full extent of my bodily functions, I also wouldn't want a dongle hanging off my tablet for it to be deemed usable.

The Samsung tablets at least still retain the SD card slot, so you can focus more on the desired amount of RAM and not worry too much about the built-in storage size.

Teever 2y ago

It would be cool if regulators mandated that companies like Apple are obligated to provide models of devices with SD card slots and a seamless way to integrate this storage into the OS/applications. That combined with replaceable batteries would go a long way to reduce the amount of ewaste.

mschuster91 2y ago
And then people would stick alphabet-soup SD cards into their devices and complain about performance and data integrity, it's enough of a headache in the Android world already (or has been before Samsung and others finally decided to put in enough storage for people to not rely on SD cards any more). In contrast, Apple's internal storage to my knowledge always is very durable NVMe, attached logically and physically directly to the CPU, which makes their shenanigans with low RAM size possible in the first place - they swap like hell but as a user you barely notice it because it's so blazing fast.
- Teever 2y ago
  Yeah jackasses are always gonna jackass. There's still a public interest in making devices upgradable for the purpose of minimizing e-waste. I'd just love to buy a device with a moderate amount of unupgreadable SSD and an SD slot so that I can put a more memory in it later so the device can last longer.
  - mschuster91 2y ago
    Agreed but please with something other than microSD cards. Yes, microSD Express is a thing, but both cards and hosts supporting it are rare, the size format doesn't exactly lend itself to durable flash chips, thermals are questionable, and even the most modern microSD Express cards barely hit 800 MB/sec speed, whereas Apple's stuff has hit twice or more that for years [2]. [1] https://winfuture.de/news,141439.html https://winfuture.de/news,141439.html [2] https://9to5mac.com/2024/03/09/macbook-air-m3-storage-speeds/ https://9to5mac.com/2024/03/09/macbook-air-m3-storage-speeds...
davedx 2y ago
Not everything has to be solved by regulators. The walled garden is way more important to fix than arbitrary hardware configurations

zozbot234 2y ago

Doesn't iPad come with an USB-C port nowadays? You can attach an external SD card reader.

amlib 2y ago
Just like I don't want an umbilical cord hanging out of me just to perform the full extent of my bodily functions, I also wouldn't want a dongle hanging off my tablet for it to be deemed usable.