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I've got a Mac Pro paperweight because the motherboard went. It's going to the landfill. I can't even sell it for parts because I can't erase the SSD. If they d
by slashdev 2y ago
I've got a Mac Pro paperweight because the motherboard went. It's going to the landfill. I can't even sell it for parts because I can't erase the SSD. If they didn't solder everything to the board you could actually repair it. When I replace my current Dell laptop, it will be with a repairable framework laptop.
- stuff4ben 2y agoJust because you lack the skills to fix it, doesn't mean it's not repairable. People desolder components all the time to fix phones and ipads and laptops. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNKNjy3CoZ4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNKNjy3CoZ4
- nicce 2y agoIn this case, you need to find working motherboard without soldered parts to be able to fix it cost efficiently. Otherwise you need to buy factory component (for extra price, with soldered components...)
- slashdev 2y agoYeah, it’s not worth it
- AzzyHN 2y agoAny other computer I could simply replace the motherboard with several other compatible motherboards, no soldering or donor board needed.
- kaba0 2y agoIt’s almost like “any other computer” is not thin as a finger, packed to the brim with features that require miniaturization. Can you just fix an F1 engine with a wrench?
- Rebelgecko 2y agoI'm not sure which gen Mac Pro they have, but the current ones aren't that much thinner than the OG cheese grater Macs from 15 years ago. In fact the current Gen is bigger than the trashcan ones by quite a bit (although IIRC the trash can Macs had user replaceable SSDs and GPUs)
- mort96 2y agoThat stuff makes it more difficult to work on, but it doesn't make it impossible for Apple to sell replacement motherboards... nor does making a "thin desktop" require soldering on SSDs, M.2 SSDs are plenty thin for any small form factor desktop use case.
- slashdev 2y agoThey do it deliberately. They want you to throw it out and buy a new one
- hot_gril 2y agoIt's not that small: https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/65262f62ac0f1aa5540aca7cf9be289fd6f352a6/hub/2023/06/06/f8a19334-a4f3-49f5-9762-a3234844ff76/apple-mac-pro-dan-ackerman-color-corrected.jpg?auto=webp&fit=crop&height=675&width=1200 https://www.cnet.com/a/img/resize/65262f62ac0f1aa5540aca7cf9... I totally missed that they released a new Apple Silicon Mac Pro. Turns out it has PCIe slots.
- slashdev 2y agoMy Dell laptop is much more repairable. I changed the RAM and added second SSD myself.
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- its_ethan 2y agoThe inability to appreciate when optimizing a design means not using COTS parts that Apple "haters" do is also amazing...
- slashdev 2y agoThere’s always some wiseass saying “skill issue”
- ipqk 2y agohopefully at least electronics recycling.
- slashdev 2y agoWhere do you usually take it for that? If I find a place in walking distance, maybe.
- kylehotchkiss 2y agoYou could try to stick it in the phones drop off thingy at target. That's my go to for all non valuable electronics.
- slashdev 2y agoI don't have that here, but maybe there's something similar
- slashdev 2y agoNothing close enough, I checked
- gnabgib 2y agoDepending on where, a lot of electronics "recyclers" are actually resellers. Some of them are even cheeky enough to deny electronics they know they can't resell (If they're manned.. many are cage-drops in the back of eg Staples)
- kjkjadksj 2y agoEven repairable only buys you a few years repairability that actually makes sense. For example something similar happened to me, lost the mac mobo on a pre solder addiction model. Only thing is guess how much a used mobo is for an old mac: nearly as much as the entire old mac in working shape. It makes no sense to repair it once the computer hits a certain age between the prices of oem parts and the depreciation of computers.
- paulmd 2y agook but now get this: what if we started a program where people prepay part of the repair with an initial fee, and then for a couple years they can have their laptop repaired at a reduced, fixed price? That helps secure the supply chain. You could then partner with a retail computer store (or start your own!) and have a network of brick-and-mortar stores with subject-matter experts to perform the repairs as well as more minor troubleshooting etc. It’d basically be like healthcare, but for your computer! I think if you partnered with a major computer brand, that kind of thing could really be huge. Maybe someone like framework perhaps. Could be a big brand discriminator - bring that on-site service feel to average consumers.
- kjkjadksj 2y agoThats basically applecare+ already. You pay like $100 upfront to get things like your phone screen fixed for $29 instead of $129. So it works out in your favor if you are one to go through a few phone screens per device. Past couple phones I've had I'm under 1 screen per phone's life on average so it works in my favor not to get applecare+ and just pay out of pocket the few times I go through a screen.
- kylehotchkiss 2y agoWhy don't you take it to the Apple Store to recycle it instead of dropping it in the trash can?
- slashdev 2y agoThey don’t accept computers for recycling. That’s what I found when I looked it up
- kylehotchkiss 2y agoThey accept Apple branded computers for recycling if it has no trade in value (they'll try to get you an offer if it has any value). I have recycled damaged apple computers at the store before without trading in.
- crazygringo 2y agoThey absolutely do. You must have looked it up wrong. Here: https://www.apple.com/recycling/nationalservices/ https://www.apple.com/recycling/nationalservices/ I've even done it before personally with an old MacBook that wouldn't turn on.
- slashdev 2y agoI went there, they give me insructions to print labels they'll send me, find a box, pad it appropriately, attach the labels and then ship it. It's going in the landfill.
- skupig 2y agoYou being unwilling to spend the barest amount of effort to recycle it is your problem, not Apple's.
- slashdev 2y agoIf they took it at their store, fine. If they want me to take an hour to go print a label (I don't have a printer), and then another hour to package it up and ship it. I'll pass. They also say to erase the data before shipping it - which I can't do.
- acdha 2y ago> I can't even sell it for parts because I can't erase the SSD The SSD is encrypted with a rate-limited key in the Secure Enclave - unless someone has your password they’re not getting your data.
- slashdev 2y agoNot worth the liability. I’d rather the landfill and peace of mind than the money
- crazygringo 2y agoBut what liability? That's the whole point of encrypted storage. There is no liability if you used a reasonable password. Why not accept you have peace of mind and resell on eBay for parts? Assuming you didn't use "password123" or something.
- slashdev 2y agoEvery system has vulnerabilities. Plus that password I used has been in dataleaks. I don't trust it.
- lm28469 2y agoIf you're that paranoid you cannot trust any software or hardware you haven't designed yourself
- slashdev 2y agoI trust the stuff I design least of all
- hn_go_brrrrr 2y agoGotta love the "What idiot wrote this code? Oh. It was me." moments.
- kalleboo 2y ago> I can't even sell it for parts because I can't erase the SSD. If they didn't solder everything to the board you could actually repair it. The Mac Pro does not have a soldered-in SSD. They even sell user-replaceable upgrades. https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MR393AM/A/apple-2tb-ssd-upgrade-kit-for-mac-pro https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MR393AM/A/apple-2tb-ssd-u...
- bustling-noose 2y agoGet a heat gun and remove the NAND. Then sell the rest of it to a local repair store or just give them for free if it's an old Mac Pro. The parts in your Mac Pro are something someone can reuse to restore their Mac Pro instead of a landfill. Not every part is security related. Also Apple may take the Mac Pro itself and give you store credit cause they do recycle it.
- jpalawaga 2y agoi don't think you can do that. there was just a video on here last week of a repair shop drilling the memory out, as that was the only way to remove it without damaging the motherboard.
- hi-v-rocknroll 2y agoOr hot air pencil if it doesn't get hot enough.
- hi-v-rocknroll 2y agoRemove the SSD card/chips and recycle the rest as e-waste. It's not hard to not throw toxic shit into landfill if you try the least.